The Burlingame City Council walked back passage of an ordinance that would have banned micromobility devices — including electric bikes and motorized scooters — in all city parks and recreation areas at its meeting Sept. 3. 

The city will bring back the ordinance for a first reading with exemptions for recreational areas like the Bay Trail, in particular, after some constituents voiced concerns about impacts to their commuting patterns. 

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easygerd

There are three legal classes of ebikes - everything above 750kw is a e-motorcycle that can only be used off-road and private areas.

By law regular ebikes are regular bikes. Funny story, it was actually the last Republican Administration that said ebikes are bicycles and should be treated as such. One of the last executive acts of the previous Transportation guy was to force National Parks to treat all three legal ebike classes like regular bicycles. California then quickly followed up with their OmniBike Bill (AB 1909) which states that all three classes of ebikes should be treated like regular bikes.

The interesting part behind ebike bans in Palo Alto, Burlingame, Mill Valley, Half Moon Bay was that they all came out after AB1909. The leaders in these cities pretended to follow this new law and were looking for ways to restrict ebike use again, because they don't like kids or the elderly riding bicycles.

Kids on ebikes are mostly hurting themselves, adults in cars kill 44,000 per year. A Ferrari can drive 200mph, a Tesla Cybertruck can get to 60 in 3 sec, and yet they are allowed in residential areas and even around schools - following Burlingame's logic, they would need to be banned even more so.

California Democrats keep claiming Electric Vehicles are the future - but only the huge ones with huge batteries and the worst carbon footprint.

They all seem afraid of the small ones with small batteries that actually would do something to reduce carbon emissions.

Terence Y

It’s all fun and games until someone loses an eye, or much worse. It is nice to read that Vice Mayor Stevenson and Mayor Colson see what many of us see. If Burlingame allows these vehicles, they’d better increase their liability deductibles and we should hope we don’t see increasing amounts of road rage incidents causing someone to lose an eye, or much worse.

easygerd

Hi T-Bot, what gives? I thought you don't like regulations.

People being idiots with cars kill 44,000 Americans each year, hurt a few hundred thousands, and cause millions in damages - and often to others.

People being idiots with bicycles kill almost nobody, hurt a few hundreds and mostly themselves.

And yet the Bay Area idiots with cars (they often call themselves Mayor or Vice Mayor btw.) always look how they can restrict idiots on bicycles - "for their own safety of course".

As usual it's about discrimination against children, seniors, people with disabilities that benefit the most from a little electric help.

Terence Y

eGerd, T-Bot here. Glad to see you’re out here, giving us your outlook on life and issues. I’m all for regulations as long as they interpret the meaning of laws for the good of the community and our nation. What I’m not for is, to follow your lead, idiots who refuse to enforce our laws, such as idiots Biden and idiot border czar Harris who don’t enforce our border or our laws. And idiots like the EPA and CARB who attempt to regulate to handicap the country for a man-made global warming hoax.

As for people with idiots with cars killing and injuring folks, I wonder what an apples-to-apples rates per capita comparison against idiots with bicycles would show. If there is data, methinks there may not be much of a difference when cars and bicyclists are going 5 to 15mph.

As for restricting idiots on bicycles “for their own safety of course” it does make sense if they’re idiots and not following our vehicle laws. Of course, this also goes for idiot drivers. Perhaps we can find a way to add more enforcement and hand out more tickets. To spread the wealth with cycling advocates such as yourself, we can require most, if not all, of the money be spent on bicycle lanes/improvements/additional enforcement/etc.

As for discrimination against children, seniors, and people with disabilities that benefit the most from a little electric help, I’d like to see how many children, seniors, and people with disabilities ride electric bikes, much less any bikes outside of recreation. Which, I’d say, are what bikes are mostly used for since they’re not convenient for everyday living. I know, I know…if there were more bike lanes…so let’s get a bicycle law enforcement division and work towards that goal. BTW, it sounds like these regulations will help children, seniors, and people with disabilities from being run over by idiots on bicycles.

easygerd

Here I thought we are having a nice local discussion about transportation, but your Russian programmers just had to bring up national politics. T-Bot, you need to ask them to update your programming so you look more legit and less like a broken algorithm.

But back to transportation. The practice around here to drive 5-10mph over the speed limit, in fact means that 99% of drivers are violating the law meaning basically right out of the box 99% of drivers are scofflaws. The next tell-tale sign that idiot in cars are the way bigger deal is the "California Stop". They don't give it that endearing name because Californians are good at following the simple law of stopping. In fact on my daily bike rides I can see 20-30 cars violating even more laws (right-on-red, speeding, not crossing double lines, not crossing into bike lanes, yielding to pedestrians, etc.) before I even see a person on a bicycle.

If I see one it's often children on their way to school, which the education system is holding back by not offering bicycle education anymore and locking down school yards, where kids used to be able to practice their riding skills. In this area, the "Mayors" and "Vice Mayors" are dumping them on the street and then put up signs like "Share the Road" - but statistics tell us, Americans are not too great at 'sharing'.

All jurisdictions in San Mateo County are constantly violating the California Outdoor Bill of Rights: https://www.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=24952

Those Bill of Rights explicitly state, that kids need to be allowed to:

- Ride a bike

- Play in a safe place

- Follow a trail

And Burlingame want to exactly prevent children from riding their bikes in parks (Safe Place) and on a trail (SF Bay Trail)

Terence Y

eGerd, T-Bot here. I don’t know about you but I feel we are still having a nice discussion about transportation. If you didn’t add the crack about regulations that would obviously bring up border czar Harris’s incompetence... If you feel that’s political, that’s on you, not my algorithm. Regarding your California Outdoor Bill of Rights, it seems to me that kids can still ride a bike, play in a safe place, and follow a trail in a park. Just not with an e-bike. Your attempt to conflate e-bikes with bikes doesn’t make the California Outdoor Bill of Rights invalid. If anyone feels different, they can sue San Mateo County to make their case. As for folks driving over the speed limit and “California Stops” let’s beef up the vehicle speed enforcement division for both cyclists and drivers. BTW, since you see 20-30 cars violating laws before you see a person on a bicycle, it sounds like you’re making my argument that there aren’t a lot of cyclists.

easygerd

>it seems to me that kids can still ride a bike,

Where? In traffic with idiots in 6000lbs vehicles? or Sharing the Road with drivers that are drunk, distracted, or high as a kite?

The moment kids are testing your theory it becomes international news: "CHP investigating several incidences of juveniles riding bicycles on the Bay Bridge"

There are no bike lanes to cross the Bay Bridge, how else should kids on bicycles cross over?

There aren't many cyclists because California Democrats - like Emily Beach from Burlingame during her time at SMC TA - constantly redirected bicycle funding towards car-centric projects. Any project with names like "traffic calming" or "Bicycle Route" or "Bicycle Boulevard" is a project where they discriminated against cyclists by mis-using their funding.

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