Editor,

I respond to Ed Kahl’s letters of Jan. 4 and 9. In my opinion, letters to the editor are not a suitable forum for discussion on the very complex subject of human-caused climate change and its consequences. There is not enough room for a thorough and cogently argued position, with citations of scientific evidence to substantiate claims.Ā 

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Jorg

Thank you, LTE-writers Ms. Hubbard, Laura Brash, Bob Steele, and commentator Westy, for your commonsense input on this silly climate debate, kept alive by ignoramuses without a fiber of science background or understanding. These are in the same group of people who use snow as an argument against global warming, who believe Trump was the best president ever, and that mysterious foreign forces rigged the election against him. So, what can we expect on a complex issue such as climate change, - except more unadulterated nonsense?

Terence Y

Here we go again… Cherry picking a starting date of 1880… Ms. Brash, if you look back further than 3 to 5 million years ago, you’ll see CO2 levels were much, much higher than today. However, if we look back to the 3 to 5 million years ago when CO2 levels were comparable, what action or actions reduced CO2 levels? I'd say Mother Nature. I don't believe there were folks thinking they could save the world by emitting less carbon or initiating a cooling trend, so how was this reduction achieved? BTW, how are you going to convince China, India, and other developing nations to curb their use of fossil fuels? Pay them off? They’ll take your money and run, as long as you give it to them. Once you attempt to stifle their growing economies, they’ll still take your money, but they won’t curb their fossil-fuel usage.

Jorg

TY: What on flat Earth does climate change millions of years ago have to do with today’s problems, except to show that nature does its own thing? The problem is that whatever climate change nature causes, we ADD to it. That’s what we must address, or else! And why not set a good example for the rest of the world, as powerful as we claim to be? Not that we have set much of an example since President Obama left office, but we can do better than exposing ourselves as nothing but anti-science ding-a-lings?

Terence Y

Jorg, thanks for your one valid point (the exclamation point). Instead of your continual bellyaching, perhaps you can propose some solutions and make a positive contribution to a discussion. I won’t hold my breath as I’m happy to contribute my carbon dioxide to the atmosphere. Question: since I have houseplants converting my carbon dioxide to oxygen, am I carbon neutral, at a minimum? I have a dozen houseplants.

Westy

Dear Mr Y, 1880 is just after the industrial revolution began, when humans began to burn coal and oil on a massive scale. If you look at a graph of CO2 in the atmosphere, you see that it remains fairly level over many millennia until the late 1880's, and then climbs almost straight up. It looks like a hockey stick. We are currently at levels never seen before in all of the time humans have existed. You hark back to 3 million years ago, but humans were not in existence then. And if we keep on the trajectory we are on, we will blip out of existence again without even having lasted nearly as long as the dinosaurs did.

Terence Y

We’ve already addressed cherry-picking so let’s put a pin in it. As I said under another LTE, for the sake of argument, let’s accept that we’re a carbon emission pumping machine. What will you do about it, other than trying to convince folks we can effect global warming? Proposed solutions…

ChrisFrank338

Thank you for the great letter, Laura!

willallen

I disagree about LTEs. They are very important in that they may help change a way of life that is a leading cause - the private automobile. Climate magazine recently ran a story on a long-gone bus system in Redwood City that worked very well. Besides, the writer says letters are not the place to debate - so why did you write one?

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