While not wanting to waste my precious digits responding to letter writer Scott Abramson’s global warming climate denialism, I will address his hypocrisy. It seems when it comes time to roll out the bogeymen, it is always limited to those “bleeding heart liberals.” He’s got quite a list. I was curious if he could compile a list of his conservative, “dark money,” billionaire donor friends and their favorite mode of transportation? Hint: Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas “don’t” fly commercial, that is unless his buddy calls his service “Quid Pro Quo Airlines.” Let’s take it one step further. I’ll park my Boeing 757 when his cult leader parks his. How’s that for an “Inconvenient Truth?”
Your example of is but one of many. Unfortunately both sides of the aisle participate in activities similar to your example. I find other examples more predominant in GOP and the right. Things such as they’re claiming to be fiscally responsible and opposing programs they claim are too costly and then tell their constituents how much they helped them when money they voted against comes into their districts. Family values are another area where they practice do as I say, not as I do. It seems like a large number of the right side of the aisle believe that hypocrisy is the basis for being a leader in the GOP.
Taffy - I think you just torpedoed Ray's compliment of your last LTE reaction. "I find other examples more predominant in GOP and the right." Where do you look for this information? The usual media sources have been slanted to the left for decades, so you are not going to find anything there. Nancy's insider trading? Biden's corruption? Obama's covert racism? Let's be fair and let's not give Mr. David another pat on the back for his biased nonsense. At least Trump used his own 757 to fly around while Nancy managed to fly in a similar plane furnished by the USAF at your and my expense.
"Biden's corruption? Obama's covert racism?" My goodness, Dirk! How deep you have to scrape the bottom of the barrel to come up with something. Anything!
Yes, Dirk, - that's an old habit of mine, - to ignore nonsense, blatant lies, and other Republican cr*p. Clears my mind for more important things, like reading and writing.
Hmmm... you're in the habit of ignoring nonsense, what you feel are blatant lies, and what you consider to be narrow points of view. (I cleaned up that last part a little.) Over the past weekend, I described your habit a little differently. Maybe you missed it.
There are those who relish labeling conservative minded DJ readers as misguided, uneducated and gullible. (Sound familiar?) Such labeling of folks on the right would imply that folks on the left side of the aisle are just the opposite. They are not.
For your consideration...three writers who lean left... James Lindsay, Helen Pluckrose, and Peter Boghossian... submitted outlandish and wholly fabricated left leaning fake "studies" for publication. Seven left leaning journals accepted their papers for publication, and those bogus studies were also accepted by left leaning academia after a thorough review. It appears almost anything supporting the left's narrative is deemed fit for publication and consumption by regular folks who lean left. So, who is misguided, uneducated, and gullible?
Said another way... maybe the left should ignore its own nonsense, blatant lies, and narrow points of view.
Yes. We agree there is plenty of skullduggery on both sides of the political aisle. However, I disagree with your position there is more hypocrisy on the right. The left controls the media, and while they gleefully report shenanigans on the right, they don’t call out the left’s hypocrisy with nearly the same frequency. I believe that’s why many regular folks on the left believe your position that there is more hypocrisy on the right is correct. We see some of those folks posting comments in these pages. The left’s hypocrisy is under reported.
The left is fond of accusing the right of racism. Yet, the left has leveled plenty of racist rhetoric against Senator Tim Scott (D-SC) since he announced his candidacy for president. His story is something all Americans can appreciate, but the left vilifies him in large part because of his race. Personally, I think Tim Scott would do a much better job as president than Joe Biden… better than Donald Trump.
Now that The Donald has reared his head in the conversation… the left accuses Trump of lying. No argument from me, and I have said as much in these pages. The left’s skipping over Joe’s lies looks a little… hmmm, how should we say it? Hypocritical?
Tafhdyd… remember the time we went to law school on full scholarships and finished in the top half our class after growing up in the Puerto Rican community and attending synagogue with our Jewish friends or driving 18-wheelers as young men or getting arrested while we trying to meet Nelson Mandela? Oh, that stuff is ancient history, and memories fade over time. Remember when we told everyone that Georgia’s election laws shortened voting hours (four Pinocchios) and that we don’t know anything about our relatives’ overseas business dealings? Hey, that was two years ago. Memories fade. Remember earlier this month when we claimed Americans’ take-home pay was increasing and we told everyone that we taught political theory at an Ivy league school and that we were at Ground Zero the day after the 9-11 attacks?
Corn Pop says “hello.” He’s riding a lot of Amtrak these days…
Ray everything that you mentioned about Biden's fantasy world is not something Taffy and Jorg will remember. Based on their news sources, those stories were never associated with Biden so this is news to them.
I have said many times that both sides lie, cheat and steal. In my first line I said "Unfortunately both sides of the aisle participate in activities similar to your example." I have also said that the difference between the left and right is that the left does things that are not on the up and up but they don't tell you not to do it. Yesterday the "pride" of the GOP, Marjorie Taylor Greene, complained about the Senate dress code and said it was disrespectful and she wanted "etiquette and respect". Not too many weeks ago MTG passed around nude pictures of Hunter Biden's you know what. I would say that that was disrespectful and now that she wants respect it was also hypocritical.
You mentioned some old history items, some I remember and some I don't. I could bring up some old history also but it would just be a tidally wink for tat exercise that would solve nothing. I will throw in one just for old history's sake. Mark Foley was the chair of the House Missing and Exploited Children's Caucus. He resigned when it came out that he was sending explicit email messages to teen boys that were Pages for congress. Sounds like hypocritical to me. What say you?
We both agree there is plenty of lying, cheating and stealing on both sides of the aisle, and there is plenty of hypocrisy on both sides, too. There are plenty of examples of hypocrisy in Congress. No doubt.
I still maintain the right side of the aisle has not cornered the market on hypocrisy, and I feel there is more on the left side... it's under reported.
The "history" in my comments posted yesterday belongs to Joe. It only goes back 40 years or so... but just this month... we can see his propensity for making stuff up continues. The Donald does the same thing... even more frequently. The left screams from the mountain tops, "Trump's a liar!" However, Joe gets a pass. Sounds like hypocritical to me. What say you?
What say me? Me says that I think that we are two of the sanest people in the comment section. We both agree to disagree. We both will listen to each others opinion. We both can change our position if the argument is persuasive enough and we both think the extremists on both sides are out of touch with reality.
I am getting a little long in the tooth to wade into politics but if we were running the show we would have solved most of the current problems long ago. I think you would agree that most things can be taken care of the old fashioned way, something that half of congress has no knowledge of, after hours behind closed doors with Mr. Johnny Walker talking with Mr. Pappy Van Winkel.
As for sane folks around these parts, there was a fellow from Alaska that used to offer his opinion occasionally and although I didn't agree with some of it he made good points for what he believed in. He didn't waste a lot of words but what words he used made sense. He might be good to have in our cabinet while we straighten things out.
Hah! Tafhdyd... more wisdom from the sage of San Mateo (not the cooking spice).
Yes, I think you and I could come up with a lot of solutions that regular folks on both sides of the aisle would like. I am unabashedly conservative, and since our pen pal relationship has blossomed into friendship, now, I look at positions on the left as an opportunity to see how others think. I still disagree with the talking heads, but when I'm standing in line next to John Q. or Jane Q. at the supermarket, I am open to hearing their perspective. I'm guessing the regular folks in the blue and red tribes agree with each other a lot more than the tribal chieftains would like.
I suggest that our Alaskan advisor be named chief of staff unless there is some other job he wants. Winetaster?
Hilarious… Methinks, Cory, you’ve wasted your precious digits, and time, creating this response based on a flawed assumption – that man-made global warming exists. For those who don’t believe in this global warming scam, we’re free to use as much carbon as we want, hypocrisy-free. Of course, folks who believe in this global warming scam seem to have no issues with COP climate conference folks taking over 400 private planes to attend, being bathed in air-conditioned comfort, and dining on steaks from methane-producing cows (while preaching, ironically, about carbon emissions). Or he’s imitating Al Gore taking jets all over the place to talk, ironically, about greenhouse gases. Or all the folks (bleeding heart liberals and others) who talk the talk about saving the world but do nothing to walk the walk. Hypocrisy on steroids, but apparently their hypocrisy gets a pass. Perhaps you can explain this “Inconvenient Truth.” BTW, what are you doing to save the world? You may want to start by selling your Boeing 757, and your gas powered car, and all the items which use fossil fuels in their production. You’re gonna have a pretty empty house. Wait, can you even own a house?
I totally agree, Mr. David. And I write to give hope that you are not alone in seeing the hypocrisy of the supporters of the corrupt former Occupant, as well as SCOTUS members enriching themselves while dismantling liberty for women and minorities. The tired old talking points, grievances, and whataboutism spouted by the MAGA cult appear here far more often than is comfortable. We have to stay strong in speaking the truth. Despite the blowback from the usual suspects that is inevitably coming on this comment.
SMpool – you mean speaking the truth about the following hoaxes: Russian Collusion Delusion, insurrection narrative, Covington kids, Jussie Smollett, Trayvon Martin, Michael Brown, and others you fell for? Yes, we must continue to stay strong and speak the truth against the tired old talking points, grievances, and whataboutism spouted by folks afflicted with Trump Derangement Syndrome. The same folks who appear here far more often than is comfortable. The bigger question is why these folks willfully ignore treasonous Biden and the Biden Crime Family. A desire for America Last? Or a permanent side effect of TDS?
It looks like you got some blowback from a usual suspect.
I don't consider myself one of the usual suspects. I have stated many times in these pages that I hope the RNC selects someone other than Doanld Trump as its 2024 nominee. I have also roundly criticized Trump for making stuff up. The left screams from the mountain tops, "Trump's a liar!" However, at the same time, Biden gets a pass for lying. While The Donald does it more frequently, Joe has been doing it publicly much longer.
I, too, hoped a populist candidate would emerge during the 2016 campaign, but I did not anticipate it would be Donald Trump. The left seems to scratch its head and wonder... why does the Republican base support MAGA? As I am not a Republican, I cannot speak for MAGA supporters. However, an interesting explanation comes from the left. With respect to MAGA loyalists, Bill Maher stated while appearing on MSNBC on 9/6/23, "... they see him as the one thing that is standing between them and something even crazier, and there is a lot of crazy on the left." Bill is correct. It appears the usual suspects on the left have united a lot of folks on the right with the left's craziness.
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Mr. David,
Your example of is but one of many. Unfortunately both sides of the aisle participate in activities similar to your example. I find other examples more predominant in GOP and the right. Things such as they’re claiming to be fiscally responsible and opposing programs they claim are too costly and then tell their constituents how much they helped them when money they voted against comes into their districts. Family values are another area where they practice do as I say, not as I do. It seems like a large number of the right side of the aisle believe that hypocrisy is the basis for being a leader in the GOP.
Taffy - I think you just torpedoed Ray's compliment of your last LTE reaction. "I find other examples more predominant in GOP and the right." Where do you look for this information? The usual media sources have been slanted to the left for decades, so you are not going to find anything there. Nancy's insider trading? Biden's corruption? Obama's covert racism? Let's be fair and let's not give Mr. David another pat on the back for his biased nonsense. At least Trump used his own 757 to fly around while Nancy managed to fly in a similar plane furnished by the USAF at your and my expense.
"Biden's corruption? Obama's covert racism?" My goodness, Dirk! How deep you have to scrape the bottom of the barrel to come up with something. Anything!
Jorg - no scraping. The "something" floats on top of the barrels that you pass by everyday and choose to ignore.
Yes, Dirk, - that's an old habit of mine, - to ignore nonsense, blatant lies, and other Republican cr*p. Clears my mind for more important things, like reading and writing.
Hello, Jorg
Hmmm... you're in the habit of ignoring nonsense, what you feel are blatant lies, and what you consider to be narrow points of view. (I cleaned up that last part a little.) Over the past weekend, I described your habit a little differently. Maybe you missed it.
There are those who relish labeling conservative minded DJ readers as misguided, uneducated and gullible. (Sound familiar?) Such labeling of folks on the right would imply that folks on the left side of the aisle are just the opposite. They are not.
For your consideration...three writers who lean left... James Lindsay, Helen Pluckrose, and Peter Boghossian... submitted outlandish and wholly fabricated left leaning fake "studies" for publication. Seven left leaning journals accepted their papers for publication, and those bogus studies were also accepted by left leaning academia after a thorough review. It appears almost anything supporting the left's narrative is deemed fit for publication and consumption by regular folks who lean left. So, who is misguided, uneducated, and gullible?
Said another way... maybe the left should ignore its own nonsense, blatant lies, and narrow points of view.
Hey, Tafhdyd!
Yes. We agree there is plenty of skullduggery on both sides of the political aisle. However, I disagree with your position there is more hypocrisy on the right. The left controls the media, and while they gleefully report shenanigans on the right, they don’t call out the left’s hypocrisy with nearly the same frequency. I believe that’s why many regular folks on the left believe your position that there is more hypocrisy on the right is correct. We see some of those folks posting comments in these pages. The left’s hypocrisy is under reported.
The left is fond of accusing the right of racism. Yet, the left has leveled plenty of racist rhetoric against Senator Tim Scott (D-SC) since he announced his candidacy for president. His story is something all Americans can appreciate, but the left vilifies him in large part because of his race. Personally, I think Tim Scott would do a much better job as president than Joe Biden… better than Donald Trump.
Now that The Donald has reared his head in the conversation… the left accuses Trump of lying. No argument from me, and I have said as much in these pages. The left’s skipping over Joe’s lies looks a little… hmmm, how should we say it? Hypocritical?
Tafhdyd… remember the time we went to law school on full scholarships and finished in the top half our class after growing up in the Puerto Rican community and attending synagogue with our Jewish friends or driving 18-wheelers as young men or getting arrested while we trying to meet Nelson Mandela? Oh, that stuff is ancient history, and memories fade over time. Remember when we told everyone that Georgia’s election laws shortened voting hours (four Pinocchios) and that we don’t know anything about our relatives’ overseas business dealings? Hey, that was two years ago. Memories fade. Remember earlier this month when we claimed Americans’ take-home pay was increasing and we told everyone that we taught political theory at an Ivy league school and that we were at Ground Zero the day after the 9-11 attacks?
Corn Pop says “hello.” He’s riding a lot of Amtrak these days…
I heard "Corn Pop" was a pretty bad dude...and ran a bunch of bad boys...
Ray everything that you mentioned about Biden's fantasy world is not something Taffy and Jorg will remember. Based on their news sources, those stories were never associated with Biden so this is news to them.
Ray,
I have said many times that both sides lie, cheat and steal. In my first line I said "Unfortunately both sides of the aisle participate in activities similar to your example." I have also said that the difference between the left and right is that the left does things that are not on the up and up but they don't tell you not to do it. Yesterday the "pride" of the GOP, Marjorie Taylor Greene, complained about the Senate dress code and said it was disrespectful and she wanted "etiquette and respect". Not too many weeks ago MTG passed around nude pictures of Hunter Biden's you know what. I would say that that was disrespectful and now that she wants respect it was also hypocritical.
You mentioned some old history items, some I remember and some I don't. I could bring up some old history also but it would just be a tidally wink for tat exercise that would solve nothing. I will throw in one just for old history's sake. Mark Foley was the chair of the House Missing and Exploited Children's Caucus. He resigned when it came out that he was sending explicit email messages to teen boys that were Pages for congress. Sounds like hypocritical to me. What say you?
Hey, buddy... I'm glad you asked.
We both agree there is plenty of lying, cheating and stealing on both sides of the aisle, and there is plenty of hypocrisy on both sides, too. There are plenty of examples of hypocrisy in Congress. No doubt.
I still maintain the right side of the aisle has not cornered the market on hypocrisy, and I feel there is more on the left side... it's under reported.
The "history" in my comments posted yesterday belongs to Joe. It only goes back 40 years or so... but just this month... we can see his propensity for making stuff up continues. The Donald does the same thing... even more frequently. The left screams from the mountain tops, "Trump's a liar!" However, Joe gets a pass. Sounds like hypocritical to me. What say you?
Ray,
What say me? Me says that I think that we are two of the sanest people in the comment section. We both agree to disagree. We both will listen to each others opinion. We both can change our position if the argument is persuasive enough and we both think the extremists on both sides are out of touch with reality.
I am getting a little long in the tooth to wade into politics but if we were running the show we would have solved most of the current problems long ago. I think you would agree that most things can be taken care of the old fashioned way, something that half of congress has no knowledge of, after hours behind closed doors with Mr. Johnny Walker talking with Mr. Pappy Van Winkel.
As for sane folks around these parts, there was a fellow from Alaska that used to offer his opinion occasionally and although I didn't agree with some of it he made good points for what he believed in. He didn't waste a lot of words but what words he used made sense. He might be good to have in our cabinet while we straighten things out.
Hah! Tafhdyd... more wisdom from the sage of San Mateo (not the cooking spice).
Yes, I think you and I could come up with a lot of solutions that regular folks on both sides of the aisle would like. I am unabashedly conservative, and since our pen pal relationship has blossomed into friendship, now, I look at positions on the left as an opportunity to see how others think. I still disagree with the talking heads, but when I'm standing in line next to John Q. or Jane Q. at the supermarket, I am open to hearing their perspective. I'm guessing the regular folks in the blue and red tribes agree with each other a lot more than the tribal chieftains would like.
I suggest that our Alaskan advisor be named chief of staff unless there is some other job he wants. Winetaster?
Hilarious… Methinks, Cory, you’ve wasted your precious digits, and time, creating this response based on a flawed assumption – that man-made global warming exists. For those who don’t believe in this global warming scam, we’re free to use as much carbon as we want, hypocrisy-free. Of course, folks who believe in this global warming scam seem to have no issues with COP climate conference folks taking over 400 private planes to attend, being bathed in air-conditioned comfort, and dining on steaks from methane-producing cows (while preaching, ironically, about carbon emissions). Or he’s imitating Al Gore taking jets all over the place to talk, ironically, about greenhouse gases. Or all the folks (bleeding heart liberals and others) who talk the talk about saving the world but do nothing to walk the walk. Hypocrisy on steroids, but apparently their hypocrisy gets a pass. Perhaps you can explain this “Inconvenient Truth.” BTW, what are you doing to save the world? You may want to start by selling your Boeing 757, and your gas powered car, and all the items which use fossil fuels in their production. You’re gonna have a pretty empty house. Wait, can you even own a house?
I totally agree, Mr. David. And I write to give hope that you are not alone in seeing the hypocrisy of the supporters of the corrupt former Occupant, as well as SCOTUS members enriching themselves while dismantling liberty for women and minorities. The tired old talking points, grievances, and whataboutism spouted by the MAGA cult appear here far more often than is comfortable. We have to stay strong in speaking the truth. Despite the blowback from the usual suspects that is inevitably coming on this comment.
SMpool – you mean speaking the truth about the following hoaxes: Russian Collusion Delusion, insurrection narrative, Covington kids, Jussie Smollett, Trayvon Martin, Michael Brown, and others you fell for? Yes, we must continue to stay strong and speak the truth against the tired old talking points, grievances, and whataboutism spouted by folks afflicted with Trump Derangement Syndrome. The same folks who appear here far more often than is comfortable. The bigger question is why these folks willfully ignore treasonous Biden and the Biden Crime Family. A desire for America Last? Or a permanent side effect of TDS?
Good morning, Astrid
It looks like you got some blowback from a usual suspect.
I don't consider myself one of the usual suspects. I have stated many times in these pages that I hope the RNC selects someone other than Doanld Trump as its 2024 nominee. I have also roundly criticized Trump for making stuff up. The left screams from the mountain tops, "Trump's a liar!" However, at the same time, Biden gets a pass for lying. While The Donald does it more frequently, Joe has been doing it publicly much longer.
I, too, hoped a populist candidate would emerge during the 2016 campaign, but I did not anticipate it would be Donald Trump. The left seems to scratch its head and wonder... why does the Republican base support MAGA? As I am not a Republican, I cannot speak for MAGA supporters. However, an interesting explanation comes from the left. With respect to MAGA loyalists, Bill Maher stated while appearing on MSNBC on 9/6/23, "... they see him as the one thing that is standing between them and something even crazier, and there is a lot of crazy on the left." Bill is correct. It appears the usual suspects on the left have united a lot of folks on the right with the left's craziness.
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