Editor,
Regarding the Oct. 4 letter, “The trouble with going electric”: “The renewable energy grid in Texas failed catastrophically during a cold spell, even causing water shortages.”
Editor,
Regarding the Oct. 4 letter, “The trouble with going electric”: “The renewable energy grid in Texas failed catastrophically during a cold spell, even causing water shortages.”
Renewables (especially wind) significantly out-performed ERCOT’s crisis projections. The critical failure was gas. You can confirm this with sites that focus on fact-checking, or in local sources.
Our energy future looks more affordable and reliable. Solar is already the cheapest power you can buy anywhere, on a per-kW or per-kWh basis. With safer, cheaper battery chemistries ramping to scale, we’re on the verge of dropping in a battery at every neighborhood substation, for a fully modular grid. The battery will soak up excess solar during the day, and balance loads at night, or when long-distance transmission is down. (n.b.: I’m the senior member of the technical support team for Tesla industrial batteries. Opinions here are my own. For what it’s worth, the only thing I worry could put a dent in my employer’s growth is a competing storage technology; I’m keeping an eye on Form Energy’s iron-air, and ESS’ iron redox flow, which might undercut lithium on price.)
Texas was ahead of California in wind and solar for a while, before ideologues turned what should be a question of technology and economics into a culture war. Their loss. California will, as it so often has, lead the nation into a brighter future, where most people generate their own energy most of the time, and a kilowatt-hour is too cheap to be worth metering.
Auros Harman
San Bruno
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Mr. Harman, unfortunately, battery storage won’t make up, or come close, to substituting the demand from natural gas sources, especially since electrical demand is only going to increase due to locales virtue signaling for all-electric. However, in regards to your letter, I’m interested in who is going to pay for these batteries in every neighborhood substation and their installs. I’m also interested in the net carbon savings (if there are any) from mining the rare earth metals and the manufacture of these batteries. More importantly, what is the return on investment for batteries and solar panel manufacturing, including hazardous waste disposal? We all know batteries won’t last forever and neither will solar panels. How would those numbers and hazardous waste compare to installing nuclear power plants in major cities (less transmission losses)? I know, less money for Tesla, but… instead of piecemeal hazardous waste, let’s go big and go nuclear. Thoughts?
It is totally incorrect to imply that roof top solar generates "energy too cheap to be worth metering". The cost of a solar system is far more on a present value basis than buying solar through PG&E. Justifying a home solar system on the basis of promises to buy back your power are worthless because when the sun shines here it shines even more on PG&E's solar panels in the valley so PG&E does't need solar power from home owners.
Solar is the most expensive power when you count the duplicate cost of providing 100% back with natural gas power plants. The current cost of a Tesla car battery is about $13,000 and the cost of backing up CA’s grid when the sun doesn't shine would be in the trillions of dollars. Form Energy’s technology is promising but no one knows went or if it’ll be available and we need reliable, affordable green energy right now. But there is a green energy solution that is ready to go and that’s to make hydrogen from solar that can be stored and used when the sun doesn't shine. It can also be burned in existing natural gas plants to provide always on power with no emissions.
Ed - I have asked repeatedly of rooftop solar owners to provide a real cost of their system and the residual PG&E bill. My son bought a house with a Tesla system and still gets incomprehensible bills from Tesla and then another whopper from PG&E. No body seems to produce an actual cost and then they just quote the bill from PG&E and exclude the out-of-pocket cost of their system or their monthly cost to the solar provider. I am in principle not against rooftop solar but I believe most owners seem to be in denial as to what their real cost is.
Mr. van Ulden – I’ve seen your requests for information but have yet to see any responses. Do rooftop solar owners remember the electricity generated on sunny days but gloss over performance on cloudy and overcast days, along with nighttime, similar to gamblers who tell you about their successes but not their losses? During a visit in Costco with a third party rooftop solar company, I wrangled an unofficial estimate of $25k for a 5 or 6kw install. At that time, PG&E and other utility companies were talking about cutting rooftop solar incentives while tacking on solar-related fees, increasing my ROI to well over a decade. No thanks for me, but I’d like to hear from owners…
Terrence - without generous subsidies the solar program would be dead. The utility companies finally got the CPUC to realize that those of us without such systems were paying for their standby. Believe it or not Newsom has stopped that inequity solution in its tracks under pressure from the Green lobby and solar contractors. You and I are paying for the distribution system. Making solar system owners pay for the burden of the standby cost that PG&E is forced to charge us is long overdue notwithstanding the hue and cry of those freeloaders. But, this is California, the State that invented social engineering.
Let's hope you are right but I recall from my early days in Connecticut that when a nuclear plant was coming on line that electricity would be abundant and cheap. I worked for an electrical outfit then that installed electric baseboard heating based on projected energy costs. That became a nightmare as the plant eventually shut down leaving the homes with unaffordable heating costs. When you say "and a kilowatt-hour is too cheap to be worth metering" market forces will overcome that as the past has shown. Meanwhile, when electricity is being generated on site, customers have a habit of installing more electricity powered appliances and other equipment, negating the economic advantages.
And Mr. Harman, the reason for the natural gas shortage was lack of electricity for the pumping systems. There was plenty of natural gas. I also recall seeing pictures of windmills with frozen wings that were iced over preventing them from turning. Tesla's systems definitely have a major role to play in our energy future but you shouldn't put all your eggs in one basket.
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