In his letter of Feb. 8, Scott Abramson claims that climate change activists are actually “science deniers” because they are not open to exploring new data, theories and ideas about climate change. The positions of climate change activists are informed by the results of over 40 years of research by climate scientists. The science may not be 100% settled — perhaps it’s only 90+% settled. But we ignore its conclusions at our peril.
Here is what we know. Since the late 1800s, global average temperature has risen by 2.2 F; sea levels have risen; the acidity and temperature of the oceans has increased; the Greenland ice sheet and glaciers around the world have melted at an increasing rate, etc. These are verified physical measurements that are not in dispute. We also know to a very high degree of certainty that these changes have been caused by increases in the concentration of greenhouse gases (carbon dioxide, methane, nitrous oxide, etc.) in the atmosphere resulting from human activity. There are no natural phenomena that would explain these physical changes. We also know that global temperatures, sea-level rise, etc. will continue to increase in the future as greenhouse gas emissions increase. Sophisticated climate models, although not perfect, help us understand the resulting environmental consequences if we do not aggressively reduce those emissions.
My question to Mr. Abramson is: Where are the alternative data, theories and ideas about climate change that would contradict the results of 40 years of solid climate science research?
That the climate is changing is not proof of catastrophe climate change. But we did experience catastrophic climate change in the Little Ice 500 years ago when CO2 levels in the air dropped so low that plants couldn’t grow and many people starved to death in Europe. As Greenpeace co-founder Dr. Patrick Moore said, we are lucky to have a safety margin in CO2 levels today. The greening of our planet as seen from space since the 1960’s is undeniable. UN models lack the inputs to make climate predictions and can not distinguish between natural variation and man’s influence. But for a number of practical reasons the world is already developing tomorrows energy which will be green and far less expensive than fossil fuels. Private industry and governments are investing billions to develop hydrogen based energy to tide us over until fusion energy (the basis of the Sun’ energy) comes into use in about 30 years.
Another day, another lecture on global warming using cherry-picked data… Hey Mr. Steele, if you want alternative data, theories, and ideas, why don’t you tell us what you think of the COP conference attendees who took over 400 jets to attend, the air conditioning that was used because it was over 80 degrees outside, and the amount of meat served from those methane-producing cows. If these folks aren’t aggressively reducing their emissions, is it because they don’t believe your data, theories, and ideas? Perhaps they know something you don’t?
Again, Terence, the whole personal carbon footprint thing is an invention of the oil & gas industry's propaganda campaign. There is no correlation between the personal carbon footprint of climate activists and the very real threat to the human species.
Westy, we can conclude that when you say “There is no correlation between the personal carbon footprint of climate activists and the very real threat to the human species.” you agree that there is no such thing as man-made global warming. Good to know. I guess I no longer need to ask what you’re doing to save the Earth.
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That the climate is changing is not proof of catastrophe climate change. But we did experience catastrophic climate change in the Little Ice 500 years ago when CO2 levels in the air dropped so low that plants couldn’t grow and many people starved to death in Europe. As Greenpeace co-founder Dr. Patrick Moore said, we are lucky to have a safety margin in CO2 levels today. The greening of our planet as seen from space since the 1960’s is undeniable. UN models lack the inputs to make climate predictions and can not distinguish between natural variation and man’s influence. But for a number of practical reasons the world is already developing tomorrows energy which will be green and far less expensive than fossil fuels. Private industry and governments are investing billions to develop hydrogen based energy to tide us over until fusion energy (the basis of the Sun’ energy) comes into use in about 30 years.
Another day, another lecture on global warming using cherry-picked data… Hey Mr. Steele, if you want alternative data, theories, and ideas, why don’t you tell us what you think of the COP conference attendees who took over 400 jets to attend, the air conditioning that was used because it was over 80 degrees outside, and the amount of meat served from those methane-producing cows. If these folks aren’t aggressively reducing their emissions, is it because they don’t believe your data, theories, and ideas? Perhaps they know something you don’t?
Again, Terence, the whole personal carbon footprint thing is an invention of the oil & gas industry's propaganda campaign. There is no correlation between the personal carbon footprint of climate activists and the very real threat to the human species.
Westy, we can conclude that when you say “There is no correlation between the personal carbon footprint of climate activists and the very real threat to the human species.” you agree that there is no such thing as man-made global warming. Good to know. I guess I no longer need to ask what you’re doing to save the Earth.
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