Editor,

In lauding Matt Grocott’s opinion piece, it appears that Scott Abramson seems to be losing his touch. He claims that “The global warming activists have already taken away, or plan to take away our light bulbs, our gas stoves, our electric fans, our gasoline powered cars and trucks.” However, he forgot to mention even more misleading narratives from the right-wing media:

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Jorg

Let me add:

They are socializing us towards communism!

They are taking our religion away!

They are indoctrinating our children!

SMpool

I couldn't agree more, Mr. Brenner! As to Mr. Grocott, he wrote several months ago that he was disgusted with California and would be moving to... Kentucky? Nebraska? Some red state more in line with his views. Why hasn't he left yet?

Matt Grocott

Misinformation SMPool. Never once said I would be moving. If I did, then cite where I did, word for word and I will rescind my comment. Until then...

Ray Fowler

Astrid, Jorg and Irv

Life is about choices, and you have made many during your lifetimes. Others will make other choices... let 'em. They may do so without derision and without persons who disagree with them telling them they are making wrong choices. Your choices are good for you and the choices that others make are good for them.

Mark Olbert wrote in his 9/11 guest perspective, "Those pesky externalities," that the government should coordinate our choices. Well, when that happens, someone else starts making your choices. He refined his position by saying the government should be "constraining" choices. That means people like you, me and everyone else are really not making choices at all.

I asked Mark, "Are dictates to eliminate gasoline powered vehicles a dozen years from now and banning natural gas furnaces, water heaters and stoves examples of "constraining" choices?"

A lot of folks on the left side of the aisle are fond of making claims they are pro-choice... and they are... until others want to make choices re: education, the First and Second Amendments, healthcare, union membership, light bulbs... and the list goes on.

Jorg

Ray: And your choice seems to be muddling up any conversation that doesn't go well from a Republican viewpoint? What else could your point be?

Ray Fowler

Good morning, Jorg...

My choice is to offer a point of view that differs from most DJ readers. That's not muddling... Plus, I offer that point of view without ad hominem.

Time and time again I have stated opinions that clash with the Republican "viewpoint." I am not in lock step with the Republican base and do not concern myself with what may "go well" with the Republican viewpoint.

My point is that we should be free to exchange ideas without calls from the left side of the aisle to be silent. It's kinda odd. You have asked me a lot of questions over the years and I respond to them, but you do not return the favor.

Any rebuttal to the comments made to you in this thread at 8:42 this morning? Any response to the questions posed to you following the 9/18/23 LTE, "Hypocrisy on the right," posted a 1:19 pm?

Jorg

Ray: Nothing more to say, - I thought my 9:50am comment would be sufficient.

Ray Fowler

That's the second time in as many weeks you have declined to respond when asked direct questions rebutting comments made by you. In the interest of an equal exchange ideas, do you think it's appropriate to unilaterally make the conversation one-sided? I am truly interested in hearing what you have to say about the left's limiting choices as well as the left's accusing opponents of improprieties that are actually standard practice for the left.

Jorg

Ray: What on flat Earth makes you believe that I am under any kind of obligation to respond to everything you happen to drag out or cook up? I have other much more interesting and rewarding things to spend my time on. Nor do I think it would have much impact on you, - whatever I say!

Terence Y

Ray, based on past history, we all knew it was only a matter of time before Jorg put on his dancing shoes. I envision Jorg has his David Bowie fave, “Let’s Dance” on the playlist. I admit I’m a bit jealous… you were awarded one of Jorg’s exclamation points (his only valid points).

Goring

Spot on last paragraph.

Terence Y

So instead of enlightened commentary, all we get is a “puerile” of wisdom letter from Mr. Brenner? Why am I not surprised? Mr. Brenner – you can do better, I hope. Meanwhile, expect more puerile of wisdom comments from those triggered by Mr. Grocott. Good job, Matt and Scott.

Lou

Yes, Trump did win the election, they've already banned incandescent lightbulbs, Newsom is signing legislation about guns, ban on gas appliances in our homes coming soon, etc...... and much more....as a result of the liberal elites and the Greening of America....

https://www.google.com/search?q=HIllsdale+College+video+Why+the+Ruling+Elite+is+Antiamerican&sca_esv=566970484&source=hp&ei=VxcLZaauFta-kPIPhvexgAU&iflsig=AO6bgOgAAAAAZQslZ8GPceCTBNykhAh

Jorg

Lou: REALLY? Against all evidence to the contrary, against all common sense and logic, without a fiber of evidence, despite 60 lost lawsuits, Trump won just because he said so, while maintaining that position was his only chance to avoid being charged for all is crimes, now that he has lost presidential protection? Is that Republican logic at its best? That would explain a lot!

Btw.: Isn’t it bad enough that we still have some 70 million voters gullible enough to fall for this lying, uneducated and totally unqualified charlatan?

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