Editor,

I want you to know that the U.S. is a republic sympathetic to small states, not a democracy that loves big cities.

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craigwiesner
craigwiesner

Or, amend the Constitution to get rid of it, Or, join the state by state compact (NPVIC) where each state agrees to assign all of its electoral college votes to the national winner of the popular vote. Or, yes, live with it and try to win over voters in all of the states and all of the counties, rural and cities.

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Jorg
Jorg

Mark: So, you prefer Electoral College rightism, which has cost us so dearly over the last 20 years or so? Please refer to my LTE for a partial list of negatives. Do you still feel the EC is worth it, and who would really suffer if abolished? Anyone?

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Terence Y
Terence Y

Jorg, did you bother to read Mr. Krvavica’s letter? He is your “anyone” and his letter tells you who suffers if abolished. Let’s not forget, the EC is in our Constitution, if you bothered to read it. BTW, I see your idol, treasonous Biden, is again shaking hands with air and needs to be led away to hide. Another global laughingstock episode compliments of brain-dead Biden.

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Jorg
Jorg

Terence Y: The Constitution can be amended when necessary, which has been done many times. In line with your thinking, you find it perfectly OK that Republican presidential votes in California do not count, while Democratic votes in Texas are also discarded, - at least for now. What happened to the concept of each vote counted equally?

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Terence Y
Terence Y

Jorg, the Constitution can be amended, but how many times have changes related to the EC been attempted and succeeded? Similar to your propensity for telling the truth about your great President Trump - zero, zilch, nada, squat, goose egg, zip, nil out of what, 700 plus attempts? Enough said. Mr. Krvavica has, in one sentence, summarized why the EC was established. BTW, I hear Biden begging Saudi Arabia for more oil and Saudi Arabia is laughing at Biden. However, it’s likely the laughter may be due to other reasons – perhaps Biden is shaking hands with another imaginary person?

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Jorg
Jorg

Terence Y: You didn't understand what Rev. Owens wrote about the outdated reason for the EC? Did you even try to understand it, or what part did you get stuck on? Perhaps someone can help you, if you let us know what your problem is.

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Rev. Lorrie Owens, NAACP San Mateo
Rev. Lorrie Owens, NAACP San Mateo

I totally agree....

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Dirk van Ulden
Dirk van Ulden

Jorg - the reason for not paying much attention to your EC LTE is that you have not made a convincing argument. And, you seldom do. As you are clearly no historian you should have known that the 9/11 attack was made possible by President Clinton who allowed Osama Bin laden to escape to Afghanistan. Your assertion that Obama reestablished the US Presidency as a respected entity is ridiculous. He acted as Santa Claus and his aids had to keep him from bowing to anyone he met outside this country. Ever wonder why he left the White House as a multi-zillionaire?

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Tafhdyd
Tafhdyd

Mr. Krvavica,

Here is an idea. Perhaps we should leave the EC alone but change the distribution of federal tax money to equal in-equal out. Your small states are mostly red states that receive more federal aid than they pay in. Most of the larger blue states you dislike pay in more than they get back. If they cut off your "bonus" federal money, maybe you will not be so smug in you little state attitude.

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Rev. Lorrie Owens, NAACP San Mateo
Rev. Lorrie Owens, NAACP San Mateo

The reason for the Electoral College (in the words of James Madison): “There was one diffi­culty however of a seri­ous nature attend­ing an imme­di­ate choice by the people. The right of suffrage was much more diffus­ive in the North­ern than the South­ern States; and the latter could have no influ­ence in the elec­tion on the score of the Negroes. The substi­tu­tion of elect­ors obvi­ated this diffi­culty and seemed on the whole to be liable to fewest objec­tions.” Analysis by Wilfred Codrington III: "Behind Madis­on’s state­ment were the stark facts: The popu­la­tions in the North and South were approx­im­ately equal, but roughly one-third of those living in the South were held in bond­age. Because of its consid­er­able, nonvot­ing slave popu­la­tion, that region would have less clout under a popu­lar-vote system. The ulti­mate solu­tion was an indir­ect method of choos­ing the pres­id­ent, one that could lever­age the three-fifths comprom­ise, the Faus­tian bargain they’d already made to determ­ine how congres­sional seats would be appor­tioned. With about 93 percent of the coun­try’s slaves toil­ing in just five south­ern states, that region was the undoubted bene­fi­ciary of the comprom­ise, increas­ing the size of the South’s congres­sional deleg­a­tion by 42 percent. When the time came to agree on a system for choos­ing the pres­id­ent, it was all too easy for the deleg­ates to resort to the three-fifths comprom­ise as the found­a­tion. The pecu­liar system that emerged was the Elect­oral College. The race-conscious­ness estab­lish­ment—and reten­tion—of the Elect­oral College has suppor­ted an enti­tle­ment program that our 21st-century demo­cracy cannot justify. If people truly want ours to be a race-blind polit­ics, they can start by pluck­ing that strange, low-hanging fruit from the Consti­tu­tion."

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Jorg
Jorg

Thank you very much, Rev. Owens, for your clear and concise clarification of the issue.

One fear many of us entertain, is that, since Trump made Bush look pretty good in comparison, do we risk getting another EC selected WH occupant in the future that makes Trump look good? A scary thought, isn’t it?

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Dirk van Ulden
Dirk van Ulden

Well Jorg - in the last election, the EC procedure worked for you and we got Biden who is making Trump look exceedingly good.

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Jorg
Jorg

Dirk: You are right, the majority elected President Biden made Trump look exceeding good as a notorious liar, a self-centered braggard so proud of himself being able to remember 5 simple words that he bragged about it for the entire world, an immature, p-grabber who wasn’t even man enough to accept a loss he was perfectly well aware of, setting an unbeatable record of surrounding himself with incompetents and criminals in the WH! Yes, I’m sure he looks good in your eyes and others in the hard-core group of easily fooled Trumpists.

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Rev. Lorrie Owens, NAACP San Mateo
Rev. Lorrie Owens, NAACP San Mateo

I do not say this as a Biden fan; I am very disappointed in his performance thus far. However, until Biden plots to overthrow the Constitution of the United States and thwarts the entire concept of democracy in this country, he still looks better than Trump. It's unfortunate that we have gotten to a place of "the lesser of two evils" in politics in this country but, until we do a better job of vetting and selecting our leaders, that's where we are.

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Rev. Lorrie Owens, NAACP San Mateo
Rev. Lorrie Owens, NAACP San Mateo

Very scary thought.....

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Dirk van Ulden
Dirk van Ulden

Dear Reverend - thank you for a worthwhile history lesson. I just finished reading the book about Lincoln and Douglas and that is where they really struggled to come up with a solution to voting rights. But, be careful, you are hurting Jorg's feelings about Biden and he may lash out. You'd never know with one of the last MSNBC viewers.

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Jorg
Jorg

Rev. Owens, I have to agree with you, that President Biden is far from perfect, and not up to the standard his former boss established. But, let’s not forget, he has a tough job, with the mess he inherited from his predecessor, and compact obstruction from the Republicans, with Trump still confusing the masses of supporting ignoramuses with his nonsense about a stolen election. If a foreign adversary rigged the election, it would be in Trump’s favor, since he is so easily fooled and manipulated. What happened to good, old fashioned common sense?

However, your Electoral College explanation was so helpful, clearcut and timely, that I would like to include it as a guest post under your name in my www.MyHonestOpinionBlog.com There, you’ll be in good company with several of your fellow DJ LTE-writers, as well as President Obama. Thus, you’ll educate thousands of subscribers, and not only in this country.

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Terence Y
Terence Y

Blah, blah, blah, Jorg again with his tired “orange man bad” rant… Jorg, what exactly is “compact obstruction”? You tried using it in the past, but have never been able to define it. Must be made up, kind of like your lies about our great President Trump. BTW, I’m positive if you take a seat and bear down, you may be able to work out your compact obstruction. Or is a compact obstruction a bunch of lawmakers in a compact car blocking the street? Looking forward to receiving more of your exclamation points, the only valid points you make.

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edkahl
edkahl

Your right - the Electoral College was created at our founding because New York State would have dominate every election and we’d of become the “Dis-United States”.

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Jorg
Jorg

Ed: And you mean that's still valid today, - despite the enormous cost of the EC over the last some 20 years? That's funny, Republican logic.

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Jorg
Jorg

How does eliminating all minority votes in a state, whether small or large, protect that minority? That’s got to be the epitome of Republican style logic!

And, to curb "out-of-control leftism"? You really have to be a die-hard Republican to swallow such unadulterated nonsense.

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