People span a rather wide range of responsible selfless cognitive thought, from those that understand the gravity of the war we are facing with COVID to those that think it is a hoax. Given this as fact, there will people who do not where masks and hold back the rest of us back from getting through this faster. I propose we have downtown signage requiring masks within one block of our downtown areas.
History has shown that the only incentive that works for people in general is to fine people for breaking a law. The police patrolling our downtowns should be walking around enforcing and fining.
If this fine is enacted (I wouldn’t put it past any Bay Area counties), when asked, my name may be Philly Phanatic, Cecil DeMille, Jorg Aadahl, David Amaral or even Brad Nelson. BTW, do masks really work? After all, supposedly we’ve been masking all this time, yet… numbers of the infected are increasing. Maybe counties should just stop testing so they can return to their red, orange, yellow, green, blue, indigo, or violet stage.
Seriously? There are still people in this area who believe masks aren't really preventing infections? In this well-educated portion of the state? Really? Well, I and many others, including scientists and most medical professionals, believe the reason we are seeing an increase in infections isn't because everyone is wearing a mask and they don't work, but rather because many aren't wearing masks when they should be, they don't know they're infected, and they spread the virus willy-nilly by their refusal to wear masks. I wonder if those people also refuse to wear seat belts? My guess is they probably don't refuse because they know that (a) seat belts save lives and (b) they'll be fined if they're not wearing seat belts and get pulled over. Bradford Nelson is correct. Fines = Compliance. And compliance with mask-wearing is exactly what we need to end all of these restrictions. I don't know about anyone else, but I'm darn sick of working from home, not going to theaters or indoor restaurants, not being able to see family and friends, etc. Whatever you choose to give as your name, please wear masks so we can all get back to normal.
Maybe you've been avoiding the news (and I wouldn't blame you), Ms. Old San Matean, but there are many people inside, and outside this area who apparently don’t believe masks or social distancing prevent infections. Governor Newsom, SJ Mayor Sam Liccardo, SF Mayor London Breed, Nancy Pelosi, LA County Supervisor Sheila Kuehl, to name a few. I guess these folks don’t believe you, or scientists or most medical professionals you speak of. BTW, I haven’t had any issues with not working from home, not going to indoor restaurants, not being able to see family and friends, etc. Just do as they do, and not as they say.
Why don't you include a republican in your list of those that don't follow the guidelines? Is it that your right wing sources don't report it or are they just pure as the driven snow and never do anything wrong?
Taffy Dave, thanks for finding a common thread. I didn’t plan on listing Democrats; I did a quick search on hypocritical Covid behavior. However, that brings up a good question. Is it a coincidence, or a pattern, that these so called leaders exhibiting “rules for thee, but not for me” behavior are Democrats? I’ll let you decide, just as I’ll let you do any legwork to find similar leaders on the other side. BTW, after my Xmas party this year, I’ll channel Liccardo and apologize for not knowing my gathering broke guidelines.
I won't have time for much today but just to help your tired legs here is a little bit I copied from the web with just a quick search of a regular web site, not one of your right wing sites that forbids anything but anti-democratic news.
The State Department instructs lower-level employees that all "non-mission critical events" should be virtual.
Mike Pompeo is planning several get togethers, two of which are in back to back times, one with nearly 200 foreign dignitaries and another he invited 900 friends but rumors say only about 300 will actually be expected. This in opposition of the State Departments own directive I mentioned above and a similar version to follow.
The indoor festivities appear to fly in the face of instructions that State Department leadership sent just last week, which were obtained by NBC News, that reminded employees of the agency's "commitment to responsible physical distancing and mission-critical only gatherings."
Not only does he not hold the event and then apologize, he openly flaunts it before hand. As for others, just look at any event at the Whitehouse in the past six months.
Taffy Dave, it sounds like what you’re saying is that people on both sides of the aisles don’t think masks or social distancing is necessary. Thanks for agreeing that we should do as they do and not as they say.
You must have read my comment too fast. I did not say anything about being ok not to wear a mask and social distance. I did not agree that we should do as they do. That is in your very vivid imagination just like your thousands of cases of voter fraud and rigged ballots. If I remember correctly the only thing we have agreed upon in several months is Prop 21. Back to the original comment. You asked for an example of the other side doing the same thing and I gave it to you.
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If this fine is enacted (I wouldn’t put it past any Bay Area counties), when asked, my name may be Philly Phanatic, Cecil DeMille, Jorg Aadahl, David Amaral or even Brad Nelson. BTW, do masks really work? After all, supposedly we’ve been masking all this time, yet… numbers of the infected are increasing. Maybe counties should just stop testing so they can return to their red, orange, yellow, green, blue, indigo, or violet stage.
Seriously? There are still people in this area who believe masks aren't really preventing infections? In this well-educated portion of the state? Really? Well, I and many others, including scientists and most medical professionals, believe the reason we are seeing an increase in infections isn't because everyone is wearing a mask and they don't work, but rather because many aren't wearing masks when they should be, they don't know they're infected, and they spread the virus willy-nilly by their refusal to wear masks. I wonder if those people also refuse to wear seat belts? My guess is they probably don't refuse because they know that (a) seat belts save lives and (b) they'll be fined if they're not wearing seat belts and get pulled over. Bradford Nelson is correct. Fines = Compliance. And compliance with mask-wearing is exactly what we need to end all of these restrictions. I don't know about anyone else, but I'm darn sick of working from home, not going to theaters or indoor restaurants, not being able to see family and friends, etc. Whatever you choose to give as your name, please wear masks so we can all get back to normal.
Maybe you've been avoiding the news (and I wouldn't blame you), Ms. Old San Matean, but there are many people inside, and outside this area who apparently don’t believe masks or social distancing prevent infections. Governor Newsom, SJ Mayor Sam Liccardo, SF Mayor London Breed, Nancy Pelosi, LA County Supervisor Sheila Kuehl, to name a few. I guess these folks don’t believe you, or scientists or most medical professionals you speak of. BTW, I haven’t had any issues with not working from home, not going to indoor restaurants, not being able to see family and friends, etc. Just do as they do, and not as they say.
Terence,
Why don't you include a republican in your list of those that don't follow the guidelines? Is it that your right wing sources don't report it or are they just pure as the driven snow and never do anything wrong?
Taffy Dave, thanks for finding a common thread. I didn’t plan on listing Democrats; I did a quick search on hypocritical Covid behavior. However, that brings up a good question. Is it a coincidence, or a pattern, that these so called leaders exhibiting “rules for thee, but not for me” behavior are Democrats? I’ll let you decide, just as I’ll let you do any legwork to find similar leaders on the other side. BTW, after my Xmas party this year, I’ll channel Liccardo and apologize for not knowing my gathering broke guidelines.
Good morning Terence,
I won't have time for much today but just to help your tired legs here is a little bit I copied from the web with just a quick search of a regular web site, not one of your right wing sites that forbids anything but anti-democratic news.
The State Department instructs lower-level employees that all "non-mission critical events" should be virtual.
Mike Pompeo is planning several get togethers, two of which are in back to back times, one with nearly 200 foreign dignitaries and another he invited 900 friends but rumors say only about 300 will actually be expected. This in opposition of the State Departments own directive I mentioned above and a similar version to follow.
The indoor festivities appear to fly in the face of instructions that State Department leadership sent just last week, which were obtained by NBC News, that reminded employees of the agency's "commitment to responsible physical distancing and mission-critical only gatherings."
Not only does he not hold the event and then apologize, he openly flaunts it before hand. As for others, just look at any event at the Whitehouse in the past six months.
Taffy Dave, it sounds like what you’re saying is that people on both sides of the aisles don’t think masks or social distancing is necessary. Thanks for agreeing that we should do as they do and not as they say.
Terence,
You must have read my comment too fast. I did not say anything about being ok not to wear a mask and social distance. I did not agree that we should do as they do. That is in your very vivid imagination just like your thousands of cases of voter fraud and rigged ballots. If I remember correctly the only thing we have agreed upon in several months is Prop 21. Back to the original comment. You asked for an example of the other side doing the same thing and I gave it to you.
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