During the last few months, the Republican Party has announced to the people of America and the world, that Republicans can’t win elections without lying, cheating, breaking the law and violating the U.S. Constitution. In many states that have Republican-controlled state legislatures, Republicans have passed voter suppression laws that include restricting or eliminating early voting periods, mail-in absentee ballots and the number of voting locations. They even have a law against giving a person a drink of water when they are standing in line to vote. None of these laws have anything to do with voter ID.
The Republican Party has clearly demonstrated that it is only interested in what will benefit themselves, its political party and its failed leader Trump, and that they don’t care about what is best for America and the American people. Plus, they don’t care what people think about it either. All of these voter suppression laws will eventually be thrown out by a court of law, because they are racist, divisive, discriminatory, illegal and unconstitutional.
A second Republican strategy is to get as many Republicans elected as secretary of state and county-level elections officers, so they can control the outcome of elections by throwing out ballots that they don't like. All of these unconstitutional and anti-democracy strategies must be stopped immediately.
Your LTE sounds a little too much like the "woke" CEOs who oppose Georgia's voting laws but they are unable to say why.
The average voter turnout in 2020 for minorities in Alabama, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, North Carolina, Tennessee and South Carolina? 60.2% What was it for Vermont, Massachusetts and New Hampshire? 45.5%. Does that translate to Democrats suppressing voting by minorities? Of course not.
The Democratic Party wants Americans to believe that red state voting laws are a return to the Jim Crow era. Not true. Democrats also continue to advance the even bigger lie that the US is a systemically racist country.
The false claim that Republicans were systematically suppressing minority votes in Texas was introduced yesterday in the comments section. As you may recall, shortly before the November 3 election, some pundits were predicting that Texas may switch from red to blue. While it didn't happen, they thought they saw a trend based on recent presidential election returns in Texas.
2012 Republicans 57.2% Democrats 41.4%
2016 Republicans 52.2% Democrats 43.2%
2020 Republicans 52.1% Democrats 46.5%
It hardly looks like voter suppression is afoot when you see that the Republicans lost five points and Democrats gained five points over the past three election cycles. But wait a minute... what about minorities? OK. 58.8% of white voters went to the polls in 2020 compared to 58.6% of black voters. Wow.., a difference of .2% (note the decimal point)… that's some serious voter suppression.
In Texas, you’ll find a heavy concentration of minority voters in metro areas who vote the Democratic Party ticket and oceans of rural Texas where Republicans dominate. That kinda mirrors what we see in the rest of the country. So, how can Democrats make the argument that black voters are being suppressed in Texas and other places when record numbers of black voters are registering and voting where they live?
Ray: I thought it would be quite obvious that Mike refers to what is being done right now to suppress votes in the NEXT election, - not in those already behind us! That’s past history!
I'm guessing his interest in the NEXT election comes from the Kakistocrats' false narrative re: PAST elections. This business about new voting laws, especially the ones in red states that promote more voter participation than some blue states, being compared to the Jim Crow era is just plain untrue.
But I'm glad you posted your comments about this topic in the DJ... I noticed that you copied Michael's LTE to your blog. That gives me an opportunity to advise you that I submitted my response to Michael's remarks to your blog and invited your rebuttal. I'll check back later...
Apologies... looks like my remarks following Michael's letter are having trouble making it to your blog. I resent them. I would be very interested to hear your rebuttal.
Ray: You offer a slight gain for one party as proof that the other side didn’t cheat in the past? Wow! That’s a good one, that actually may fool someone easily duped! Mike’s point though, is what is taking place right now to suppress voters in future elections, in a frantic attempt to stop further decline for the Republicans.
My response was not intended to fool anyone. Let's leave that to the progressives as it appears their greatest asset is the ability to push out rhetoric without regard for the truth. Sorry you felt duped...
The info was in response to false claims of voter suppression in Texas, but you will find similar data for other states if you care to look. Oh... wait a minute! I did that for you. I included some numbers for the minority turnout in the last election which shows several red states with a minority turnout nearly 15 points higher than some blue state bastions which include... wait for it... Massachusetts!
C'mon, man! (I'll see your two exclamation points and raise you one... no cards.)
To your interpretation of Mike's point... what IS happening now? Have you read the Georgia voting laws? Exactly what about them do you feel suppresses anyone's vote? Jorg... with record minority voting registrations and record minority voting turnouts, how can you... on this flat Earth... support claims that voter suppression?
Did you ever see the movie, "Minority Report"? It's not about voting but it is about the future. Here's my prediction... if retinal scanning is ever perfected for voting... Democrats will never win another election.
Gotta run. BTW... that movie reference was a joke. Have some fun, Jorg! (Oops... now I'm up two exclamation points.)
Well, it looks like my comments had no problem getting over to your blog... you just censored most of them then took a small portion out of context to criticize.
And you challenge the integrity and truthfulness of those who do not share your viewpoint? Wow...
Not sure if you got back to Voting in Texas but I did post a theory on suppression that I didn't have time to do the day before. No need to rebut or reply, I just wanted to be sure you saw another opinion.
I don't see it in this thread... Yes, I would like to read it. All honest and truthfully offered opinions are welcome. I probably won't rebut and let your thoughts close out our discussion.
I think the point is well established... there are knuckleheads out there who are OK with interfering in the voting process. I can accept the left's rejection of state voting laws IF they have actually read those laws and state precisely what their objections may be... that could inspire a clean debate. It would also help if those same left leaning folks would include a careful look at voting laws in blue states before lashing out at red states. However, I'll probably buy that bridge over the East River before that happens...
It was from the Voting in Texas thread on the 14th. I replied yesterday. BTW, Kristocrats was one I was not familiar with and after looking it up the first thing that came to mind was the current leadership, or lack of, for the Republican party.
That’s a personal blog editor’s prerogative, Ray! I just accepted enough of your lengthy charade to make it clear that a past gain for one party doesn’t at all prove that the other side didn’t cheat! There is no logic or rhyme or reason to that assertion, - just an empty statement to fool the easily duped. Get it?
Ray, it’s hilarious and not at all surprising that Jorg would censor your comments. Logic, critical thinking, truth, justice and the American Way have no part in his world. If I were retired, I might be tempted to create an “anti-Jorg” blog where anytime one searches his name, my link would be among the top 5 hits, if not the first. I’d mirror his site but publish all comments as-is. Of course, I’d include my interpretation of Jorg’s comments. Most of which would be along the lines of, blah, blah, blah, Jorg thinks orange man bad because he can’t find anything positive about bumbling Biden to write. I’d include a requisite number of exclamation points and the flat earth Jorg is so fond of.
I keep telling myself to stay out of the fray, but I guess I am a moth drawn to the flame. But... I do need to put more time and energy into a couple of other projects. So, I will sign off for a while...
We are told life is a circle. We are born tabula rasa, hairless, toothless and needing to wear diapers. Most of us end life in a similar fashion. A few of us, Jorg being one, become tabula rasa once again. That being self evident, I would no more mistreat Jorg than an infant. Despite his incessant mewling, I hope you find it in your heart to follow my lead. 🤣
Blah, blah, blah, here we go again with Mr. Oberg repeating the same hackneyed and tired arguments from Democrats who are afraid of election integrity. Meanwhile, more election audits are being held. One has to wonder what the Dems are afraid of. After all, who doesn’t want a free and fair election?
"After all, who doesn't want a free and fair election?" The answer is obviously the Republicans. They have nothing to offer the American people other than NO. The only way they can win is to cheat, something they are good at. BTW, more sham audits like the comedy of errors in AZ won't change things even though the gullible Donald minions will continue to send money mistakenly thing it will. As he says, I love the poorly educated.
Blah, blah, blah, looks like Taffy still has the same TDS bug as Mr. Oberg, but a more severe case that includes projecting Democrat malfeasance onto Republicans. One has to wonder what Taffy is afraid of. A free and fair election?
Republicans want to ensure that only legal votes are counted. But Democrats want to be sure that vote harvesters stay in the business of helping people to vote multiple times, counting the votes of dead people and others who aren't citizens of a state or the country. Democrat politicians want to leave all this possibilities on the table for when they're needed.
Voter suppression? Just a Kakistocrat distraction... mirrors and strings. It takes attention off skyrocketing crime rates in blue state enclaves like New York, Los Angeles, and San Francisco. And the Veep has gone more than 80 days without visiting the border after being appointed the lead person in dealing with the border crisis. Thanks, Joe.
The old saying, “You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.” Well, it looks like the progressives are trying to fool all the people all the time...
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Good morning, Michael
Your LTE sounds a little too much like the "woke" CEOs who oppose Georgia's voting laws but they are unable to say why.
The average voter turnout in 2020 for minorities in Alabama, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, North Carolina, Tennessee and South Carolina? 60.2% What was it for Vermont, Massachusetts and New Hampshire? 45.5%. Does that translate to Democrats suppressing voting by minorities? Of course not.
The Democratic Party wants Americans to believe that red state voting laws are a return to the Jim Crow era. Not true. Democrats also continue to advance the even bigger lie that the US is a systemically racist country.
The false claim that Republicans were systematically suppressing minority votes in Texas was introduced yesterday in the comments section. As you may recall, shortly before the November 3 election, some pundits were predicting that Texas may switch from red to blue. While it didn't happen, they thought they saw a trend based on recent presidential election returns in Texas.
2012 Republicans 57.2% Democrats 41.4%
2016 Republicans 52.2% Democrats 43.2%
2020 Republicans 52.1% Democrats 46.5%
It hardly looks like voter suppression is afoot when you see that the Republicans lost five points and Democrats gained five points over the past three election cycles. But wait a minute... what about minorities? OK. 58.8% of white voters went to the polls in 2020 compared to 58.6% of black voters. Wow.., a difference of .2% (note the decimal point)… that's some serious voter suppression.
In Texas, you’ll find a heavy concentration of minority voters in metro areas who vote the Democratic Party ticket and oceans of rural Texas where Republicans dominate. That kinda mirrors what we see in the rest of the country. So, how can Democrats make the argument that black voters are being suppressed in Texas and other places when record numbers of black voters are registering and voting where they live?
Ray: I thought it would be quite obvious that Mike refers to what is being done right now to suppress votes in the NEXT election, - not in those already behind us! That’s past history!
I'm guessing his interest in the NEXT election comes from the Kakistocrats' false narrative re: PAST elections. This business about new voting laws, especially the ones in red states that promote more voter participation than some blue states, being compared to the Jim Crow era is just plain untrue.
But I'm glad you posted your comments about this topic in the DJ... I noticed that you copied Michael's LTE to your blog. That gives me an opportunity to advise you that I submitted my response to Michael's remarks to your blog and invited your rebuttal. I'll check back later...
Apologies... looks like my remarks following Michael's letter are having trouble making it to your blog. I resent them. I would be very interested to hear your rebuttal.
Ray: You offer a slight gain for one party as proof that the other side didn’t cheat in the past? Wow! That’s a good one, that actually may fool someone easily duped! Mike’s point though, is what is taking place right now to suppress voters in future elections, in a frantic attempt to stop further decline for the Republicans.
My response was not intended to fool anyone. Let's leave that to the progressives as it appears their greatest asset is the ability to push out rhetoric without regard for the truth. Sorry you felt duped...
The info was in response to false claims of voter suppression in Texas, but you will find similar data for other states if you care to look. Oh... wait a minute! I did that for you. I included some numbers for the minority turnout in the last election which shows several red states with a minority turnout nearly 15 points higher than some blue state bastions which include... wait for it... Massachusetts!
C'mon, man! (I'll see your two exclamation points and raise you one... no cards.)
To your interpretation of Mike's point... what IS happening now? Have you read the Georgia voting laws? Exactly what about them do you feel suppresses anyone's vote? Jorg... with record minority voting registrations and record minority voting turnouts, how can you... on this flat Earth... support claims that voter suppression?
Did you ever see the movie, "Minority Report"? It's not about voting but it is about the future. Here's my prediction... if retinal scanning is ever perfected for voting... Democrats will never win another election.
Gotta run. BTW... that movie reference was a joke. Have some fun, Jorg! (Oops... now I'm up two exclamation points.)
Jorg
Well, it looks like my comments had no problem getting over to your blog... you just censored most of them then took a small portion out of context to criticize.
And you challenge the integrity and truthfulness of those who do not share your viewpoint? Wow...
Good morning Ray,
Not sure if you got back to Voting in Texas but I did post a theory on suppression that I didn't have time to do the day before. No need to rebut or reply, I just wanted to be sure you saw another opinion.
Hi, Tafhdyd
I don't see it in this thread... Yes, I would like to read it. All honest and truthfully offered opinions are welcome. I probably won't rebut and let your thoughts close out our discussion.
I think the point is well established... there are knuckleheads out there who are OK with interfering in the voting process. I can accept the left's rejection of state voting laws IF they have actually read those laws and state precisely what their objections may be... that could inspire a clean debate. It would also help if those same left leaning folks would include a careful look at voting laws in blue states before lashing out at red states. However, I'll probably buy that bridge over the East River before that happens...
Ray,
It was from the Voting in Texas thread on the 14th. I replied yesterday. BTW, Kristocrats was one I was not familiar with and after looking it up the first thing that came to mind was the current leadership, or lack of, for the Republican party.
That’s a personal blog editor’s prerogative, Ray! I just accepted enough of your lengthy charade to make it clear that a past gain for one party doesn’t at all prove that the other side didn’t cheat! There is no logic or rhyme or reason to that assertion, - just an empty statement to fool the easily duped. Get it?
Ray, it’s hilarious and not at all surprising that Jorg would censor your comments. Logic, critical thinking, truth, justice and the American Way have no part in his world. If I were retired, I might be tempted to create an “anti-Jorg” blog where anytime one searches his name, my link would be among the top 5 hits, if not the first. I’d mirror his site but publish all comments as-is. Of course, I’d include my interpretation of Jorg’s comments. Most of which would be along the lines of, blah, blah, blah, Jorg thinks orange man bad because he can’t find anything positive about bumbling Biden to write. I’d include a requisite number of exclamation points and the flat earth Jorg is so fond of.
Terence... you're too funny.
I keep telling myself to stay out of the fray, but I guess I am a moth drawn to the flame. But... I do need to put more time and energy into a couple of other projects. So, I will sign off for a while...
Terence,
We are told life is a circle. We are born tabula rasa, hairless, toothless and needing to wear diapers. Most of us end life in a similar fashion. A few of us, Jorg being one, become tabula rasa once again. That being self evident, I would no more mistreat Jorg than an infant. Despite his incessant mewling, I hope you find it in your heart to follow my lead. 🤣
Wilfred, interesting analogy. However, I’m more of a spare the rod, spoil the child adherent.
Blah, blah, blah, here we go again with Mr. Oberg repeating the same hackneyed and tired arguments from Democrats who are afraid of election integrity. Meanwhile, more election audits are being held. One has to wonder what the Dems are afraid of. After all, who doesn’t want a free and fair election?
Terence,
"After all, who doesn't want a free and fair election?" The answer is obviously the Republicans. They have nothing to offer the American people other than NO. The only way they can win is to cheat, something they are good at. BTW, more sham audits like the comedy of errors in AZ won't change things even though the gullible Donald minions will continue to send money mistakenly thing it will. As he says, I love the poorly educated.
Blah, blah, blah, looks like Taffy still has the same TDS bug as Mr. Oberg, but a more severe case that includes projecting Democrat malfeasance onto Republicans. One has to wonder what Taffy is afraid of. A free and fair election?
Republicans want to ensure that only legal votes are counted. But Democrats want to be sure that vote harvesters stay in the business of helping people to vote multiple times, counting the votes of dead people and others who aren't citizens of a state or the country. Democrat politicians want to leave all this possibilities on the table for when they're needed.
Voter suppression? Just a Kakistocrat distraction... mirrors and strings. It takes attention off skyrocketing crime rates in blue state enclaves like New York, Los Angeles, and San Francisco. And the Veep has gone more than 80 days without visiting the border after being appointed the lead person in dealing with the border crisis. Thanks, Joe.
The old saying, “You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.” Well, it looks like the progressives are trying to fool all the people all the time...
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