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Response to Grocott’s ‘experience’

Jan 13, 2021
Jan 13, 2021 Updated Apr 13, 2025
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Editor,

So, Matt Grocott thought about participating in domestic terrorism but didn’t have time in his schedule to go to Washington? (“My experience Jan. 6” in the Jan. 12 edition of the Daily Journal).

(24) comments

Wilfred Fernandez Jr Jan 13, 2021 11:55am

Mr. Olbert,

Among your many Letters to the Editor was one on character. As we are aware, how things are said can matter as much as what is said. You might want to reflect on that. And while you are at it, refresh your understanding of logical fallacies and civil discourse.

markolbert Jan 13, 2021 2:31pm

I did. Too bad Matt didn’t.

Wilfred Fernandez Jr Jan 13, 2021 3:44pm

Mr. Olbert,

Matt did not attack you. That is the difference with regards to my point. Character.

Ray Fowler Jan 13, 2021 5:01pm

Spot on, Wilfredo. I expect nothing less...

markolbert Jan 15, 2021 7:36pm

Disagreeing with someone's opinion is not attacking their character, Wilfred. If it was I'd feel attacked by your comments. But all I feel is amused, and sorry for you.

Wilfred Fernandez Jr Jan 13, 2021 6:13pm

Good evening mi amigo Mr. Fowler,

What a shame that men of intellect, such as Mr. Olbert, do not present themselves as thoughtful leaders. It really is a simple task. I pray my first impression of him comes to fruition.

markolbert Jan 15, 2021 7:37pm

Sadly, Wilfred, I think you're going to be disappointed. Because you have an odd view of what it means to be a thoughtful leader. "Thoughtful" does not mean "agrees with Wilfred".

Wilfred Fernandez Jr Jan 15, 2021 9:50pm

Congratulations Mr. Olbert,

If you are smart enough to believe what you write, then I am not smart enough to change your mind. Enjoy your special life.

willallen Jan 13, 2021 9:12am

Childish and pathetic. He never said he wanted to take part in violence.

markolbert Jan 13, 2021 2:32pm

Read up on Sherlock Holmes and the dog in the night. What’s not heard can be as important as what is.

willallen Jan 13, 2021 5:00pm

I did "read up on" "Philip's Code: No News is Good News - to a Killer," which said "the truth is the sum of the facts, not some of the facts."

Terence Y Jan 13, 2021 8:50am

Blah, blah, blah, another day, another outrage letter that conveniently memory-holes the death and destruction wrought by the idiot BLM and Antifa goons and the storming of the Capitol during the Kavanaugh hearings. And let's not forget the storming of the White House by these same goons last May.

markolbert Jan 13, 2021 2:33pm

Violence to overthrow the government is a little different from violence against injustice or violence against property. It’s fascinating how many on “the right” fail to understand that.

Terence Y Jan 13, 2021 4:12pm

Sorry, Mr. Olbert, you'll need to think of a valid reason. If there was actually an effort to overthrow the government, half a million patriots could do a lot more damage than the few embedded Antifa folks did. It’s fascinating how many on “the left” try to justify their actions with excuses when their side is guilty of untoward behavior. BTW, thanks for acknowledging the violence from the idiot BLM and Antifa goons. In your opinion, I guess their storming of the White House last May was also just a misunderstanding and not an effort to overthrow the government.

markolbert Jan 15, 2021 7:40pm

Terence, you must live in an alternate reality, as I don't recall hearing about anyone storming the White House last year. I do recall the White House, as it were, storming a bunch of protestors so some idiot could hold a Bible -- upside down -- in a photo - op.

You should try living in the "real" reality. As challenging as it gets sometimes it's a much better place than the one you appear to inhabit.

Terence Y Jan 15, 2021 9:05pm

You’re hilarious, Mr. Olbert. It’s ironic you tell me to live in the “real” reality when you’re the one ignoring reality. Maybe you have memory issues, only read news you agree with, or are feigning ignorance. After all, ignorance is bliss. Search White House, May 29, 2020 to experience reality. Please let us know how that crow tastes. On a side note, in “real” reality, they’ve arrested a few of the embedded Antifa folks (there’s video evidence) that incited the Capitol riot you’re trying to blame on patriots. Looking forward to your next letter.

Ray Fowler Jan 13, 2021 5:21pm

Mark

Violence is violence. Recently, some talking heads and an op-ed piece in the DJ referenced Dr. Martin Luther King's remark that a riot is the voice of the unheard. They suggested that violence, in what they considered to be a just cause, is somehow OK. Wrong. Violence is violence. Dr. King did not accept physical force as a tactic; he held fast to his ideal of soul force. He was unshakeable in his belief that non-violence is the key in the struggle for justice. The mob was wrong last week and the "mostly peaceful protesters" last summer were wrong. It's fascinating how many on "the left" fail to understand that.

JustMike650 Jan 15, 2021 10:52pm

Ray

Dr. King's letter stated, if not now, when.

Now is all we have. And, of course, his sticking to nonviolent means to achieve just ends also guides many of us, but not all.

JustMike650 Jan 15, 2021 10:54pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATPSht6318o

Patrick Henry Jan 13, 2021 7:19am

So Mark, now you are trying to put words into the mouth of the author. Your side never stops amazing me. I too would have gone to DC if I had the time and money. Freedom is not free, I would expect many more demonstrations from those Americans who will not let Biden or Harris have one moment of breathing room. Similar to how president Trump was treated his entire four years. Just prepare yourself for it so that you can continue your faux shock. I believe this country is too torn apart to ever come back together, you will see that manifestation out on the streets of America. Letting you know so that you can write about.

Tafhdyd Jan 13, 2021 9:35am

I will agree with one part of your comment. The country probably is too torn to come together, at least anytime soon. With delusional people like you that believe the conspiracy theories about massive voter fraud other Trump outright made-up lies it will indeed be a long time.

Patrick Henry Jan 13, 2021 11:09am

Well, at least we agree on one thing.

markolbert Jan 13, 2021 2:34pm

Congratulations! You seem to be well on your way to being a bona fide enemy of the community! Have you been reported to law enforcement yet?

JustMike650 Jan 15, 2021 10:55pm

Chris we still have time to smooth out your legacy.

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