Editor,

Regarding “Gov. Newsom’s gambit” (letters, 2/18/22), I tried to keep an open mind but choked on my coffee around the fifth paragraph. There’s self-centeredness: vaccines “should be no one’s business but your own.” Wrong. Vaccinations, or lack thereof, affect everyone. In fact, the lack of vaccinations is what has kept the pandemic going. There’s ignorance: “... especially since we now know they don’t work.” I’m dumbfounded. Who knows this? All the people posting disinformation on social media from their moms’ basements? Even for vaccinated people who still get COVID, vaccination is keeping them out of the hospital and the morgue. There’s paranoid extrapolation: “And just wait till the powers-that-be insist you put all your bank accounts in digitized form on your Vaccine Passport.” Lord help me. (Besides, that shouldn’t be necessary. It’ll all be in the microchip they inject into the vaccine).

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Terence Y

There’s even more irony - Mr. Wright being all wrong. Hey Mr. Wright, you may have forgotten that a vaccine historically prevents somebody from getting a particular disease – basically, a cure. The world has seen the jab does not do this, which is why the CDC had to change the definition of “vaccine” in an attempt to cover up the ineffectiveness of the COVID jab. Perhaps Mr. Wright hasn’t heard of breakthrough infections? Mr. Wright is probably still under the illusion that masks work, which is why so-called Democrat leaders have continually eschewed masks when they think nobody is looking. I'm going to go out on a short limb and say Mr. Wright voted for Mr. Wrong - treasonous Biden.

Finally, Mr. Wright should look up the definition of “gullible” to realize he’s potentially been had by fake news and lies, especially with the jab. As for “totalitarianism” some would make the case we’re headed in that direction, but it’s not due to our great President Trump. I’d say it’s due to folks like Mr. Wright being afflicted with TDS and swallowing fake news hook, line, and sinker without bothering to search for the truth. Now that makes me worry about what’s happening in our state … and our country.

Tafhdyd

Terence,

Once again, TRTRT! On a side note, the overwhelming majority of those dying of Covid are the right wing "my freedom is more important than community health" unvaccinated/won't get vaccinated bunch. That is the only reason that your golden idol suggested his minions get vaccinated. Someone pulled him aside and told him that his base was dying because they would not get vaccinated. I guess that people with a morbid sense of reality might think that is a good thing.

Terence Y

Once again, Taffy Refusing to Recognize Truth. TRTRT indeed! Hey Taffy, real world results show community health doesn’t change regardless of whether you’re jabbed or not. Essentially, everyone getting the COVID jab is unvaccinated, because we know your “vaccination” is not a vaccination. See previous comment. More important is treatment. BTW, five months ago, I provided links to studies for the effectiveness of both HCQ and Ivermectin. Whatever happened to your researching the research regarding those studies? Your silence on the issue means you can’t refute those studies.

Tafhdyd

Terence,

Sorry, I did report back on your fish fungus and parasite meds studies and you didn't like my answer. I checked several and found them of very little value. Some of them were different reports on the same study rather than different studies and some had too small a sample to conclude anything other than it would be a waste of time to read any farther. BTW, I forget to ask earlier, how are you doing with your bamboo fibers?

Terence Y

So Taffy, which studies out of the 388 for HCQ or the 150 for ivermectin did you check out? Study titles? Authors? I call bunk on your “checked several” as it’s obvious you haven’t. If anything, I get the feeling you glommed onto the PetSmart site because you needed another excuse. BTW, you're still begging for help with your panda diet study? A word of advice - make sure you mask up, maybe double or triple mask.

Tafhdyd

Terence,

I have more important things to do than waste time looking for your snake oil reports. BTW, in case you forgot, you are the one that brought up the bamboo fibers in the first place. So I will ask again, how are you doing with your bamboo fibers?

Terence Y

Taffy, just as I suspected - the truth comes out. You made up your “checked several” studies because you don’t want to learn the truth. Now you’re trying to foist your panda diet study to me? Sorry, but it's your baby so you can keep it as long as you want. Perhaps your time is better spent uncovering the truth instead of making up and regurgitating lies. After all, the truth shall set you free – especially from TDS.

Brian Wright

You can define "vaccine" however you'd like, but no properly informed person can question that the COVID vaccines have been very effective in preventing hospitalizations and deaths. "Illusion" that masks work? Again, no properly informed person can question that high-quality masks, such as N95s, significantly reduce the number of illnesses. These are the opinions of medical experts all over the world. And it's ludicrous and hypocritical for a Trump supporter to label Biden treasonous when Trump encouraged an insurrection that attempted to overturn the results of a free and fair election. Who's been reading fake news?

Tommy Tee

Brian--Exactly. "Properly informed" is the key. Unfortunately, many people think that means Tucker Carlson, Newsmax, and OAN.

Terence Y

Mr. Wright, if masks work, then why are all these so-called Democrat leaders gallivanting around without masks? To wit, Biden, Newsom, Breed, Garcetti, Pelosi, to name a few... Did you see how many folks were ignoring masks at the Super Bowl? And now kids are being set free to ignore masks. Are Democrats now ignoring medical experts due to push back on mask ineffectiveness, or because those medical experts are wrong? As for your jabs being effective in preventing hospitalizations and death, how many hospitalizations and deaths are due to the jab, and the second jab, and the third, ad infinitum? As for your so-called insurrection, that narrative has already been debunked, even by Reuters back in August, but if half a million patriots decided to partake, then you may have a case. As for your free and fair elections, more and more proof is released showing there’s plenty of voting shenanigans. Sorry, Mr. Wright, you still make me worry about what’s happening in our state … and our country.

Jorg

Terence: The voter shenanigans you talk about, must be the few Republicans caught voting for dead relatives. That’s not enough to make a difference, while exposing their dishonesty and stupidity. Of greater impact might be foreign adversaries trying to rig the election in Trumputin’s favor, like in 2016. Obviously, they would prefer someone in the WH that they can manipulate and get some anti US support from, like what their favorite has demonstrated on so many occasions, while we have probably only seen the top of the proverbial iceberg. So far.

Tafhdyd

Terence,

I just did a simple search on voter fraud. Are these some of the names you were thinking of when you mentioned "more and more proof is released showing there's plenty of voting shenanigans"? Rosemarie Hartle, Bruce Bartman, Ralph Thurman, McCrae Dowless, Alex Campbell, Cheryl Hall and Glenn Youngkin's son.

Terence Y

As if on cue, Jorg and Taffy regaling us with more inane rants… and more fake news. Both Jorg and Taffy should make everyone worry about what’s happening in our local community, much less the state … and our country. These two are great examples of the effects of long-term TDS – continually living in the past, can't document a treasonous Biden accomplishment, and unable to think independently. Their motto - if the fake news prints it, we’ll repeat it. To borrow from Mr. van Ulden, we should forgive them for their irrelevance.

Brian Wright

How does the fact that politicians sometimes ill-advisedly didn't wear masks prove that masks don't work? Do you mean that must indicate that the politicians know they don't work? No, it indicates that the politicians were foolish and hypocritical in those instances, nothing more. And have you done a study of people at the Super Bowl to see if they got sick? We don't have the data to make that statement relevant. The school mask mandate was removed because the omicron surge has abated. Do you think that if masks work, we have to wear them until the End of Days? No, we have to wear them when there's a higher risk of exposure, such as during a surge. How has the insurrection narrative been debunked when we have video of protesters storming the Capitol building and attacking police? And if there was really any proof of the election being stolen, don't you think Trump's 30 lawyers would have found it? There has been NO credible proof.

Terence Y

Mr. Wright – I agree politicians are foolish and hypocritical and if they don’t feel the need to wear masks, but feel the need to tell you to. You have to admit, there are more than quite a few Democrats who are foolish and hypocritical. Regarding your argument about a Super Bowl study, we don’t need one. We can look at empirical evidence of all these folks around the nation that wore masks and were still infected. As for your so-called video of protesters storming the Capitol, did it appear as if half a million patriots stormed the Capitol? Obviously not, but we do know that the Capitol Police killed an unarmed civilian, one more than those half million "insurrectionists." As for proof of election shenanigans, it’s all around you, with more evidence each day. You just need the conviction to search for the truth.

We can continue this debate but instead, let’s change the subject… Perhaps you can give us your thoughts regarding the Scourge of the Union speech given by brain-dead Biden. How about Biden referring to the Ukrainian people as the Iranian people? The “pound of Ukrainian people”? The Russian “roubelle”? The “infects” of climate change? There’s no debate on these points since the speech was televised.

Tafhdyd

Terence,

I hate to break the news to you on a Friday evening and spoil your weekend but your more evidence every day of election shenanigans is only partly right. Watching reruns of Trump on RSBN every day does not mean new evidence every day. What is true is that every day new evidence is shown that Trump lied, cheated and broke the law in every way known, and then some, to steal the election. BTW, how are your bamboo fibers doing?

Terence Y

Taffy my friend, you’re hilarious. Your fake news and TDS make you unable to spoil my weekend or any weekday. Actually, what would spoil any part of my day would be if you actually used facts to support arguments instead of regurgitating fake news and lies that have been debunked, over and over again. As it is, your jibber-jabber consists of constantly begging for help for your panda pie study (wear a mask, or two, or three) and your living-in-the-past/inability to document a treasonous Biden accomplishment. If you actually become relevant, I’ll worry about it then, but I think we both know that won’t happen anytime soon.

Of course, you can prove me wrong by answering the same questions I posed to Mr. Wright… Perhaps you can give us your thoughts regarding the Scourge of the Union speech given by brain-dead Biden. How about Biden referring to the Ukrainian people as the Iranian people? The “pound of Ukrainian people”? The Russian “roubelle”? The “infects” of climate change? There’s no debate on these points since the speech was televised. BTW, it appears Mr. Wright may now be ghosting me. I hope you don’t do the same, but when you have no answers, what can you do?

Tafhdyd

Terence,

I have told you before that it is not worth the keystrokes to give you facts because you don't understand facts for the most part and the few you understand you don't believe. As for Mr. Wright, I believe he is new to the comments section but I am sure it won't take him long to realize that he is debating someone in a fantasy world wearing a tinfoil hat when he reads and replies to your comments. BTW, I am glad I didn't ruin your weekend.

Terence Y

Taffy, as expected, you didn’t prove me wrong. Instead of answers, all we get is your fantasy world and tinfoil hat shtick. You may as well ghost me because I get the same results from you – nothing. How about I give you an easy one? Should Vegas set odds on when China will take over Taiwan? Don’t you think the time is ripe with America Last Biden? BTW, since you’re such a fan of the jab, maybe you and like-minded folks could line up for a fourth, fifth, and even fifteenth jab. Reports show millions of jab doses are being trashed due to lack of demand. Chances are Pfizer and Moderna won’t give us refunds, so…

Tommy Tee

Spot on, Mr. Wright.

Dirk van Ulden

Mr. Wright, a ranting at his best. You may need to educate yourself on totalitarianism. According to Webster it means absolute control by one political group. Let's see, the WH, the Senate and the House are all controlled by a single leftist agenda, a defining example of that word "totalitarianism." Trump never aspired to reach that goal. Try again, Mr. Wright.

Jorg

Dirk: You are the one who should educate yourself and look up the definition of authoritarianism, and even read a book about it, for example John Dean’s “Authoritarian Nightmare: Trump and his Followers”. If you read it with an open mind, you’ll quickly see that Republicanism today has authoritarian attributes, not the Democrats. In addition, Republican’s supreme leader, Trumputin, is full of praise for an authoritarian dictator like Putin, calling him a genius for attacking Ukraine. Indeed, you certainly belong to quite a cult, Dirk!

Ray Fowler

Hello, Jorg

Following Brian Wright's anti-conservative rant yesterday in which he characterized Cheri Zaslawsky's earlier LTE as a conservative rant, I mentioned that you had posted yet another anti-conservative rant yesterday on your blog.

I was surprised that you tried to discourage me from referencing your blog in the DJ comments section. You apparently want me to submit comments re: your blog posts to you so you can edit them. That doesn't work very well as you either delete portions of rebuttals that disagree with your viewpoint or erase comments in toto that do not conform to your personal ideology.

Jorg. if you don't know it... know it now... that's censorship.

Now, you prefer that I send you drafts of my comments for review so you can preemptively censor them? Not on your flat Earth... that's a little too Putin-esque.

Jorg

Ray: Again, let me say that this site is not for advertising my personal blog, nor to make comments relating to it, in an attempt to trick me into responding. That’s what the blog is for, intended only for its subscribers. If you feel better if I show you the edited version before publishing, fine with me. So, from now on, let’s keep the two media separate. OK?

Terence Y

Ray – that’s a hilarious recap of Jorg’s efforts to create his own totalitarian community. It sounds like Jorg wants his blah, blah, blahg to only include group thinkers and fake news consumers instead of useful and thoughtful commentary. Imagine if Jorg had to submit his diatribes to fact checkers – there would be no blahg. Please keep us entertained with tales of Jorg’s censorship.

Ray Fowler

Jorg

You wrote, "... let’s keep the two media separate. OK?" Short answer: No. Long answer: Heck no!

Jorg... everyone who willingly expresses an opinion in the editorial pages or online forums owns his or her words. You and I are no exceptions. No one has the authority to decide which comments should be allowed. Again, you and I are no exceptions.

In the case of yesterday's anti-conservative rant, you backed the ranter and at the same time issued your own anti-conservative rant on your blog. I disagreed with the LTE writer and I disagreed with your blog posting... and I said so. You are free to respond... for all the world to see... but what you cannot do is try to restrict my free expression.

My comments yesterday were not an attempt to trick you into responding. You responded on your own... thank you for that. However, I'm not sure what you mean when you say you will show me "the edited version before publishing." If that means you will edit something submitted by me and let me see your cutting and pasting or erasing my content as a courtesy... no thanks to that.

I could say more but will refer you to my posting following the LTE in today's DJ submitted by Oscar Lopez-Guerra.

Ray Fowler

Hi, Dirk

This LTE is perversely amusing... a rant about ranting. Then, Jorg joins in... wow... his blog post today would win a gold medal for ranting if there was such an award. I just don't know why Jorg believes insults and name calling should pass for rhetoric. The reality is that Jorg's brand of progressive statism is much closer to authoritarianism than today's conservative ideology.

Dirk van Ulden

Ray - we would be better off not responding to Bagdad Jorg. He should be forgiven for his irrelevance.

Jorg

Dirk: Ad hominem is all you could come up with? I guess I was wrong thinking you might have some sensible response to the question about authoritarianism, especially since you reacted with such apparent authority to Mr. Wright’s very thoughtful LTE. Like to try again? I like to believe you can do better. Perhaps you can try to explain what you mean by my “irrelevance”?

Brian Wright

I wasn't ranting against ranting in general, just against inane rants. I have nothing against a good, proper, logical rant... : )

Brian Wright

Trump wants to be a dictator, unbeholden to laws or the Constitution, not a president.

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