Have we learned anything at all?

Jul 28, 2021
Jul 28, 2021 Updated Apr 13, 2025
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Editor,

After 20 years of bloodshed and problems, we are trying to get out of the Middle East conflicts we foolishly got into two decades ago. But why did we get involved in the first place?

(9) comments

Terence Y Jul 28, 2021 8:38am

Actually Jorg, no President in history has won the presidency without the Electoral College and you know why? Because the Electoral College is enshrined in our Constitution. Maybe some homework on America’s Electoral College is in store.

Jorg Jul 28, 2021 8:59am

Of course not, - since the president, unfortunately, is elected by the Electoral College vote, not the majority of the popular votes. That’s the problem! Not that hard to understand, is it?

Terence Y Jul 28, 2021 2:09pm

Jorg, what part of Electoral College (not popular vote) is enshrined in the Constitution is confusing? That’s your problem! Not that hard to understand, is it?

Ray Fowler Jul 28, 2021 4:30pm

Hello, Terence

I have been out most of the day, and did not get a chance to lock horns with the left side of the room.

Four and a half years ago, I exchanged some email with Sue Lempert concerning the the Electoral College vs. the popular vote. She was very gracious and encouraged me to submit an op-ed piece. Remember... this guest perspective was submitted a few days before Donald Trump's inauguration... https://www.smdailyjournal.com/opinion/guest-perspective-sacramento-heal-thyself/article_a625b002-3906-56d2-9de8-e3137030115e.html Enjoy.

Terence Y Jul 28, 2021 7:06pm

Hi Ray – thanks for the link and an enjoyable and still relevant read. Shall we expect a few more guest perspectives in the near future? Since nobody on the left wants to answer your questions regarding violence in Chicago or remarks by Carol Swain, among dozens of other questions – perhaps a guest perspective to educate our dear DJ readers? Maybe regale us with a history lesson? Benedict Arnold's place in history? The Battle of Saratoga was a turning point (I highly recommend the battlefield tour).

Ray Fowler Jul 28, 2021 9:07pm

Ah, yes... Saratoga. Arnold deserves much more credit for his role in that key battle... a Continental victory that led to the French publicly announcing their support for our Revolution. However, Gen. Gates got the kudos. Part of the backstory was Arnold's assignment to Gates so he could keep an eye on Gates for Washington. The crazy thing about Arnold's betrayal at West Point was that Washington shows up as the plot hand over the fort was supposed to unfold. Arnold seeks safety with the Brits as British Major Andre was captured. The protocol was to swap prisoners in those days, but Washington would only accept Arnold in a trade for Andre. The Brits could not give Arnold to Washington, so he stayed with them and Washington hung Andre as a spy. Check out Washington at Jumonville Glen, and how he handled Continental mutineers who tried to defect to the British. Back in the day, you didn't want to cross George.

willallen Jul 28, 2021 9:15am

Interesting that you mentioned Nader. What about Ross Perot? If not for him, Papa Bush would have been reelected instead of Clinton.

Jorg Jul 28, 2021 12:30pm

So, where do you think Perot’s votes would have gone, besides to those states where Bush Sr. won the EC votes anyway?

willallen Jul 28, 2021 5:03pm

Point i wanted to make is that you mentioned Nader but not Perot. I think his job "sucking sound" resonated with a lot of people.

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