Editor,

I must admit, reading “There is no pending climate catastrophe” in your Jan. 9 letters to the editor made my jaw drop.

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Terence Y

Yawn. Here we go again, another lecture about so-called global warming… Ms. Chou, instead of lecturing us, perhaps you can tell us what you are doing to reduce your carbon footprint. Are you trying to convince China, India, or other developing nations to reduce their carbon emissions? Maybe if you show you’re ready to do something, others may follow.

Dirk van Ulden

Ms Chou - I believe that the problem lies with the approach to mitigating the effects of climate change. We all see that something is going on but it does not appear that there is single authority or a credible science-based entity that really knows what to do about it. So, we got stuck with silly measures such as Reach Codes, massive conversion from gas appliances to electric stoves, and electric vehicles. All of which are feel-good steps that satisfy our curiosity and are supposed to make us think we are making a measurable contribution. Most folks, including me, are not climate change deniers but we are not under the impression that what is being proposed for us at an individual level will make a difference. Baby steps are not going to convince mass polluters like China and India to suddenly see climate change as a priority.

Westy

Very well put, Ms. Chou. And the responses below from Dirk and TY are excellent illustrations of the propaganda tactics used by ExxonMobil and others, moving from outright denial to delay as climate changes have become even more obvious.

They would have us believe "it’s individuals and consumers who are responsible for taking action” and "what-about China and India, it doesn’t make sense for us to take action, until they do."

1. The fossil fuel industry “funded carbon footprint calculators,” Dr John Cook, a research professor at the Centre for Climate Change Communication, “and my hat off to them for coming up with an incredibly effective PR strategy to distract the public from the real need, to transform how we create energy.”

2. The U.S. puts out more CO2 than any other nation on earth, including China and India, by a large margin. Considering the relative populations (a billion-plus each for China and India versus 300 million in the U.S.), per capita emissions in the U.S. are many times larger. This has been true for the past 100-plus years of CO2 pollution.

For the U.S. to refuse to take any steps until India and China do the same is like the fattest man at the table, upon realizing the food is running out, demanding that the hungry people who just sat down cut back just as much as him, at the same time.

3. Putting a price on carbon, with a cash-back dividend to individuals, is the single most powerful tool to slow the pace of climate change. (We've pretty much missed the window to prevent catastrophic damage, but maybe, just maybe, we can keep the planet habitable if we act now.)

Dirk van Ulden

And Westy - what are you personally doing about this other than quoting others. Talk is cheap.

Westy

I'm doing quite a lot about it, Dirk, both personally and politically, thanks for asking. What are you doing other than spreading propaganda from the oil companies that is intended to distract from the issue?

Dirk van Ulden

Westy - again no specifics here other than blather from you. Before my retirement from the UC system, I developed and later ran a $300million energy efficiency program for the 10 campuses and 5 medical centers. Over three years, when I ran it, the UC system reduced its carbon footprint by 450,000 tons of CO2. My successor continued the program and has likely doubled that amount by now. Financing was accomplished with revenue bonds that were paid from the avoided energy cost. Can you top that?

Westy

Wow, Dirk, that is truly impressive. There is no doubt that you have made an important contribution. We need more of this kind of work, it sets examples for how to reduce consumption.

However, I also believe that we need systemic change--we need to move towards new technologies in addition at the same time we work on increasing efficiency, and this can only be accomplished through political will power. ExxonMobile, BP and others have been very effective in taking over the narrative in convincing many people that the answers lie exclusively in personal action and making systemic change is impossible, and they have been very effective at buying politicians. To make systemic changes, we need to address issues with the system.

So yeah, my personal carbon footprint is pretty small for an American. When I was a child, we did not have electricity or running water at home so I have great appreciation for the luxury those things give us. Back when I had long commutes, I rode the train or carpooled, I buy energy efficient appliances and I unplug things when I'm not using them. I drive very little. But I acknowledge that these actions make no real difference on their own. To save the planet, we need to make large scale changes and it is a long haul that we can and should address on multiple fronts. For example, I work on voting rights in voter suppression states--because we need a strong democracy to combat the control that the corporations exert on our governing bodies. And I exert what influence I can on our local and state electeds to encourage them to support solar subsidies, carbon pricing, and other measures that will help shift the system to a more sustainable model. It's one thing to elect the right person to office (I work on that too), but it is also necessary that they hear from us about what is important and that we hold them accountable.

Terence Y

Unfortunately, Dirk, Westy is unable to elaborate on what she is doing. Just as she is unable to elaborate on what her plan is to address CA’s water problem. Talk is cheap and that appears to be the best Westy can do. Or ghosting us.

Dirk van Ulden

Terence, unfortunately the Westys of the world believe that we can only accomplish certain goals by regulatory intervention and heavy tax-payer-funded programs. Meanwhile the so-called leaders are spouting off and fly in their private jets to Davos and other exotic resorts. Nothing that the UC system accomplishes is mandatory, all measures had to make economic sense before the Regents approved the funding. If I had come up with Reach Codes and similar amateurish ideas, the campuses would have laughed in my face.

Westy

Regulatory intervention is necessary. The government is what protects society an individuals from being completely under the control of corporations. However, in the case of climate change, it does not need taxpayer funding to accomplish. Take a look at the concept of carbon fee with dividends--it's a win-win-win. Even the big oil companies will win because they will be guided into ways to make money that are sustainable and will not destroy the planet.

Terence Y

You called it, Dirk. Um, Westy, who do you think will end up paying for these carbon fees? It’s not the oil companies as they’ll pass on costs to consumers (the majority of who are taxpayers). This carbon fee scam has already been shown to be a wealth distribution scheme, where even middle-class taxpayers will subsidize others. BTW, how much in carbon fees should those people flying in 400+ jets to the COP conference pay?

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