How on flat Earth could anyone with a fiber of intellect believe that the 2020 election was stolen from Trump — just because this habitual liar claimed so — months before? How would Trump know, without a shred of evidence, and despite over 60 unsuccessful lawsuits — that he had won — with a “landslide?” Without presidential protection, Trump knows what is coming his way in terms of serious lawsuits — which explains his desperate attempts at proving he won another four years of undeserved protection.
As if it wasn’t bad enough that some 74 million showed such low respect for the highest and most important office in the world, that they would elect someone as unqualified as Trump — especially after he had spent four years exposing his inept and incompetent he was — while making himself a laughingstock around the world and an embarrassment for the country. If anything, with a liar and cheater like Trump as a role model, it would be more logical that the votes for him were inflated, while the votes for his opponent without question were deflated due to the usual Republican voter suppression, making it virtually impossible for many to exercise their constitutional rights. Trump got away with murder, literally, at least so far!
Finally, I’ll remind the math challenged, that despite what the shamelessly boasting Trump claims, 57>43!
Jorg- you talk about the flat earth quite a bit. Do you think all your ranting and raving has changed one mind over the many years you have been vomiting the same message. You are a like a pull the string doll that just regurgitates the same message over and over. I will be voting for Trump in 2024 and there is nothing your name calling is going to do to stop me or others from supporting Trump. Jorg, you need a good American education, the one you received in your country seems to be insufficient. It's never to late to get educated Jorg, I suggest you start today.
Surprise, surprise, PH: I have graduate degrees both from here and “over there”. But, I have also done enough volunteer teaching in my life to realize that learning is hard for some, especially if you have been indoctrinated with outdated ideas. Therefore, I’m realistic enough to understand I can’t change the minds of your kind, so I’m not even trying. And, from behind bars, I’m sure Trump will appreciate your undying support and admiration!
Jorg, I'm surprised you limited yourself to just one exclamation point to explain your sophomania. BTW, have you contracted with another salvage yard to handle your numerous JUNC "donations"?
Another day, another blah, blah, blah, JUNC (Jorg’s Uneducated Nitwit Carping) letter that consists of a compilation of his previous comments. Once I read the “flat Earth” reference, I knew it was Jorg spewing his brand of hatred. The TDS is strong in this one.
TY: Instead of your tedious and childish “blah-blah” comments, why don’t you try to contribute something of interest and value. For example, why do you think the Republicans are so much against a thorough investigation of the January 6 events? Same reason why the Nazis were against investigating WWII war crimes, or why Trump so desperately tried to hide his tax returns?
Anyone who reads the LTEs in the Journal is familiar with your political position. What's more, your stated opinions are proof of the chasm that exists between Democrats and Republicans. But let's set aside the red vs. blue tribal warfare...
Regardless of political affiliations... we are people first. As a person with unique experiences in life, what would you suggest as a way to bridge that great chasm? How can we start to see people across the political aisle instead of opponents?
There has been a lone voice calling for unity in America. What can you and other readers (myself included) do to help achieve unity?
You certainly bring up good points, Ray, - to which I don’t think there are any simple answers, unfortunately. For one thing, it is difficult to feel sympathy for, or work with, a party who’s official position is to destroy as much as possible of what the opposition has done or plans to do, instead of cooperating for the good of the country, like you may see in the more progressive nations in Europe. And what do you do with people so easily fooled that they believe Trump’s big lie about voter fraud, and that he actually won by a landslide, - as he claimed even before the election? What’s your solution?
I'm curious. Don't you feel your remark about the Republican party that says, "... it is difficult to feel sympathy for, or work with, a party who’s official position is to destroy as much as possible of what the opposition has done or plans to do, instead of cooperating for the good of the country... " is exactly the red vs. blue rhetoric that stymies efforts to bring unity to America? I'm not a Republican but I'm fairly certain the Republican party's official position is not to destroy their opponents policies. We'll never get on track and make progress toward unity if we continue to view others who do not share our personal points of view as the enemy.
So, I'll ask again... How can we start to see people across the political aisle instead of opponents? What can you and other readers (myself included) do to help achieve unity? Maybe if we... and that includes everyone... can put aside the sloganeering, we can start working on a solution.
When it comes to solutions... we have to recognize that we will not achieve a unity of thought... nor should we. Your ideas differ from Terence and Patrick's ideas differ from Tommy's... we don't want everyone thinking the same way.
But unity of intention is different. Our country has achieved great things when we were unified. However, we don't seem to have a purpose today except electing politicians (left and right) who promise to deliver agendas that are actually designed to keep their party in power.
Let me give you an example... immigration. Most Americans believe immigration can make our country better, and that America needs a way to bring others who want to make America their home to this country. That solution requires a strong border and sensible path to citizenship. Yet, it is not happening. Republicans did not achieve immigration reform during the past four years, and it appears Democrats will also fail to do so. If the current administration cannot make sufficient progress on immigration and other issues of importance to Americans, that administration must be turned out.
Sorry, I am starting to ramble... but one more point. Unity of intention cannot move forward if we insist on different sets of facts to inform politics. A lot of conservatives accept as factual that just assuming personal responsibility can solve social problems. While that's certainly a step in the right direction, America's inner cities need some serious and real help. A conservative set of facts that suggest folks in inner cities can solve solve their own problems is a canard. But it cuts both ways... A lot of liberals accept as factual that life as we know it on the planet will come to a grinding halt in about ten years. While we should certainly address important environmental issues that can affect the climate, proposals to eliminate fossil fuels completely are misguided. A liberal set of facts that suggest folks can thrive on wind and sunlight is simply a prevarication.
It's not a Trump thing and it's not a Biden thing. Unity of intention requires a set of facts that Americans find acceptable... not Republican facts or Democrat facts. While a biased media does not help promote the dissemination of real and timely information, we must keep Americans informed so they can make better choices at the ballot box.
I checked the videos in the link you attached to your last response.
Hmmm... I'm not so sure your reliance on a politically progressive commentator arguing that Trump supporters naturally score lower on a cognitive ability test deserves the attention you believe it does. I'm sure we could find a conservative commentator saying negative things about Democrats and their critical thinking skills... and I would be just as skeptical. What's mildly amusing is that the progressive's remarks are based on a study out of Israel. That's not a problem... universities around the world do good work. What is curious is that the researcher released a paper two years earlier that said once you properly adjust socioeconomic status and race into the examination of voting patterns... there are no real differences between Democrats and Republicans. Do you believe persons on the lower rungs of the socioeconomic ladder will naturally score lower on the verbal ability test administered by the Israeli researcher? If so, what would be your conclusions re: verbal ability test scores and political party affiliation?
The other video featuring John Oliver's monologue criticizing televangelists is... forgive me... preaching to the choir. Who thinks greedy televangelists taking advantage of vulnerable people is a good thing? This was an opportunity for Oliver to motivate his audience to challenge the tax shelters provided to religious hucksters. We're not talking about legit churches helping the homeless, feeding the hungry or caring for those in true need. There are those who conflate the charlatans featured by Oliver in his monologue and religious leaders who inspire the good work of ministries that help others... they help others with a cheerful heart and expect no compensation for doing so. It's also interesting the religious leaders who serve the marginalized pray for those who lump them into the same category as the dishonest televangelists. That's real grace. Back to Oliver... he had a chance to inform and motivate people but that would get in the way of his punchlines. We got jokes instead...
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Jorg- you talk about the flat earth quite a bit. Do you think all your ranting and raving has changed one mind over the many years you have been vomiting the same message. You are a like a pull the string doll that just regurgitates the same message over and over. I will be voting for Trump in 2024 and there is nothing your name calling is going to do to stop me or others from supporting Trump. Jorg, you need a good American education, the one you received in your country seems to be insufficient. It's never to late to get educated Jorg, I suggest you start today.
Surprise, surprise, PH: I have graduate degrees both from here and “over there”. But, I have also done enough volunteer teaching in my life to realize that learning is hard for some, especially if you have been indoctrinated with outdated ideas. Therefore, I’m realistic enough to understand I can’t change the minds of your kind, so I’m not even trying. And, from behind bars, I’m sure Trump will appreciate your undying support and admiration!
Jorg, I'm surprised you limited yourself to just one exclamation point to explain your sophomania. BTW, have you contracted with another salvage yard to handle your numerous JUNC "donations"?
Another day, another blah, blah, blah, JUNC (Jorg’s Uneducated Nitwit Carping) letter that consists of a compilation of his previous comments. Once I read the “flat Earth” reference, I knew it was Jorg spewing his brand of hatred. The TDS is strong in this one.
TY: Instead of your tedious and childish “blah-blah” comments, why don’t you try to contribute something of interest and value. For example, why do you think the Republicans are so much against a thorough investigation of the January 6 events? Same reason why the Nazis were against investigating WWII war crimes, or why Trump so desperately tried to hide his tax returns?
Good morning , Jorg
Anyone who reads the LTEs in the Journal is familiar with your political position. What's more, your stated opinions are proof of the chasm that exists between Democrats and Republicans. But let's set aside the red vs. blue tribal warfare...
Regardless of political affiliations... we are people first. As a person with unique experiences in life, what would you suggest as a way to bridge that great chasm? How can we start to see people across the political aisle instead of opponents?
There has been a lone voice calling for unity in America. What can you and other readers (myself included) do to help achieve unity?
You certainly bring up good points, Ray, - to which I don’t think there are any simple answers, unfortunately. For one thing, it is difficult to feel sympathy for, or work with, a party who’s official position is to destroy as much as possible of what the opposition has done or plans to do, instead of cooperating for the good of the country, like you may see in the more progressive nations in Europe. And what do you do with people so easily fooled that they believe Trump’s big lie about voter fraud, and that he actually won by a landslide, - as he claimed even before the election? What’s your solution?
Jorg
Thanks for a prompt response...
I'm curious. Don't you feel your remark about the Republican party that says, "... it is difficult to feel sympathy for, or work with, a party who’s official position is to destroy as much as possible of what the opposition has done or plans to do, instead of cooperating for the good of the country... " is exactly the red vs. blue rhetoric that stymies efforts to bring unity to America? I'm not a Republican but I'm fairly certain the Republican party's official position is not to destroy their opponents policies. We'll never get on track and make progress toward unity if we continue to view others who do not share our personal points of view as the enemy.
So, I'll ask again... How can we start to see people across the political aisle instead of opponents? What can you and other readers (myself included) do to help achieve unity? Maybe if we... and that includes everyone... can put aside the sloganeering, we can start working on a solution.
When it comes to solutions... we have to recognize that we will not achieve a unity of thought... nor should we. Your ideas differ from Terence and Patrick's ideas differ from Tommy's... we don't want everyone thinking the same way.
But unity of intention is different. Our country has achieved great things when we were unified. However, we don't seem to have a purpose today except electing politicians (left and right) who promise to deliver agendas that are actually designed to keep their party in power.
Let me give you an example... immigration. Most Americans believe immigration can make our country better, and that America needs a way to bring others who want to make America their home to this country. That solution requires a strong border and sensible path to citizenship. Yet, it is not happening. Republicans did not achieve immigration reform during the past four years, and it appears Democrats will also fail to do so. If the current administration cannot make sufficient progress on immigration and other issues of importance to Americans, that administration must be turned out.
Sorry, I am starting to ramble... but one more point. Unity of intention cannot move forward if we insist on different sets of facts to inform politics. A lot of conservatives accept as factual that just assuming personal responsibility can solve social problems. While that's certainly a step in the right direction, America's inner cities need some serious and real help. A conservative set of facts that suggest folks in inner cities can solve solve their own problems is a canard. But it cuts both ways... A lot of liberals accept as factual that life as we know it on the planet will come to a grinding halt in about ten years. While we should certainly address important environmental issues that can affect the climate, proposals to eliminate fossil fuels completely are misguided. A liberal set of facts that suggest folks can thrive on wind and sunlight is simply a prevarication.
It's not a Trump thing and it's not a Biden thing. Unity of intention requires a set of facts that Americans find acceptable... not Republican facts or Democrat facts. While a biased media does not help promote the dissemination of real and timely information, we must keep Americans informed so they can make better choices at the ballot box.
Very good points, Ray! I basically agree with you, but you are a far better salesman and writer than me, - so all I can do, is wish you Good Luck!
Ray: This explains it far better than I can: http://myhonestopinionblog.com/trump-and-republican-intellect/
Hello, Jorg
I checked the videos in the link you attached to your last response.
Hmmm... I'm not so sure your reliance on a politically progressive commentator arguing that Trump supporters naturally score lower on a cognitive ability test deserves the attention you believe it does. I'm sure we could find a conservative commentator saying negative things about Democrats and their critical thinking skills... and I would be just as skeptical. What's mildly amusing is that the progressive's remarks are based on a study out of Israel. That's not a problem... universities around the world do good work. What is curious is that the researcher released a paper two years earlier that said once you properly adjust socioeconomic status and race into the examination of voting patterns... there are no real differences between Democrats and Republicans. Do you believe persons on the lower rungs of the socioeconomic ladder will naturally score lower on the verbal ability test administered by the Israeli researcher? If so, what would be your conclusions re: verbal ability test scores and political party affiliation?
The other video featuring John Oliver's monologue criticizing televangelists is... forgive me... preaching to the choir. Who thinks greedy televangelists taking advantage of vulnerable people is a good thing? This was an opportunity for Oliver to motivate his audience to challenge the tax shelters provided to religious hucksters. We're not talking about legit churches helping the homeless, feeding the hungry or caring for those in true need. There are those who conflate the charlatans featured by Oliver in his monologue and religious leaders who inspire the good work of ministries that help others... they help others with a cheerful heart and expect no compensation for doing so. It's also interesting the religious leaders who serve the marginalized pray for those who lump them into the same category as the dishonest televangelists. That's real grace. Back to Oliver... he had a chance to inform and motivate people but that would get in the way of his punchlines. We got jokes instead...
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