Editor,

The Republican Party is at it again. Besides supporting an insurrection against our own government on Jan. 6 and passing voter suppression laws in Republican-controlled states, now, the Republicans want to “whitewash” (pun intended) the teaching of the problem of racism in America’s history. In some states with a Republican governor or Republican-controlled legislature, the Republicans are passing laws to ban teachers from teaching their students about the issue of racism throughout America's history. Why? Because, teaching students about racism would make the Republican Party look bad, as they are a big part of the problem.

This type of behavior only further illustrates that the Republicans only care about themselves, their party and their loser former president, who was the most racist president in our country’s history. To clarify, teachers don’t teach their students about racism when the kids are only 10 years old, as one letter writer assumed. Students are much older when they receive this type of classroom teaching. Everyone knows that.

This is just another example of the Republicans dividing our country and destroying our country’s heritage, history and democracy.

Michael Oberg

San Mateo

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edkahl

We are not a racist country. America provides more human rights protections and laws to protect against racism than any other country which is why America is the most favored destination for immigrants. America inherited slavery from British America which used slaves here 150 years before for our country was founded. Our founders finally eliminated under a republican president in the Civil War. American passed an Amendment and civil rights laws to insure equal treatment under the law. The New York Times 1619 program in schools does not emphasize America's redemptions, but only a past that no longer exists.

Tafhdyd

Mr. Kahl,

You are correct that we have passed laws to ensure equal treatment. That is on paper, not in the hearts of the racists that still thrive in America. I would ask you to go downtown some afternoon and ask the first 100 blacks you see if they agree with your statement. Ask them if they have always been treated fairly in day to day activities, if they have been followed around in a store, if they have been stopped only for driving while black. Tally up their response and then come back and talk to us. BTW, the

Republicans of the 1860's are no way like the Republicans of the 2020's.

Terence Y

Taffy, you are correct that racism still thrives in America. Democrats, since before the Civil War, afterwards with the KKK, and to this day have continued to restrict the rights of black folks and their equal treatment under the law. Shame on Democrats! Why do they continue to advocate for racism?

Tafhdyd

Terence,

You are up early this morning. If you have a few minutes you may want to look for a new calendar, this is 2021 not 1960. BTW, how are you doing with the bamboo fibers?

Ray Fowler

Michael

You wrote, "... Republicans want to “whitewash” (pun intended) the teaching of the problem of racism in America’s history... Because, teaching students about racism would make the Republican Party look bad, as they are a big part of the problem."

So, in your view of how history should be taught... how do you teach about Democrats and the KKK? What do you teach about Democrat presidents like Wilson and Johnson who were racists? What would you teach in school about Executive Order 9066?

BTW... the Democratic Party is still suppressing African-Americans. In the words of Professor Carol Swain, "Democrats falsely claim that the Republican Party is the villain, when in reality it’s the failed policies of the Democratic Party that have kept blacks down. Massive government welfare has decimated the black family. Opposition to school choice has kept them trapped in failing schools. Politically correct policing has left black neighborhoods defenseless against violent crime." I'm guessing she would know more about this subject than anyone else participating in this discussion.

Democrats today who claim our country is systemically racist are standing in the way of ensuring life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness for all. They don't want to teach history... they want to rewrite it.

Rel

Ray, spare me your faux outrage at the treatment of blacks by Democrats. I work everyday to get minorities and educationally challenged people well paying jobs. As seen from our DEI (Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion) studies, there are institutional and systemic racism today, everyday in our society. Our country was founded by slave owners and our norms of measurement and advancement were set from the outset. So, racism is endemic to us from the get go and it is standing in the way of ensuring life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness to many people of color - that is not rewriting history, that is factual. Any doubt? Be a minority and be pulled over by a cop in many parts of the country and not feel your life may be in jeopardy.

Over our history, both parties share equal blame in holding down the advancement of nonwhite people. But for you to set forth the Democrats are primarily at fault for the demise of minorities, mainly blacks, is pure malarkey. Were my eyes playing tricks with me - did the white supremacists wear MAGA hats on the Jan 6

insurrection? Is it not the Republicans who, with a record turnout in the last election, are bringing all the voter suppression laws? Who does the KKK align themselves with today? Which party wants to deny healthcare for all, those making it difficult for the most oppressed amongst us to get reasonably costed care? Which party is against Planned Parenthood? Which party has racist Qanon members?

To answer your myriad questions on blacks getting abortions. Did it not occur to you most cannot afford another child, or the health costs associated with a birth? Or, are you asserting Democrats are forcing blacks to have abortions? Blacks overwhelmingly vote for Democrats freely and without coercion because they know they have no representation in Congress by most Republicans, many of whom make no secret of being avowed racists. It appears to me, you base most of your appraisals of social programs primarily based on costs, not on its benefits to humanity, thus undercutting your own.

Dirk van Ulden

Rel - you really let yourself go here. Some Founding Fathers were slave owners, not all of them. These DEI studies are hopelessly biased This country was not founded based on slavery but we did expect folks to pursue their dreams. Can't help it if some decided to sit back and let things roll off their backs. In terms of profiling, you take a look at who are violating speed and nuisance laws? Which party endorses Antifa and BLM that caused far more damage and mayhem than another right wing organization. Then, with respect to abortions. With all of the contraceptive information available, why are black women having more abortions than another demographic? Your argument about economics is certainly suspect. Please stick with getting those folks who you pretend to help out out of a mindset that limits their function and viability in life so that they may go forward and join the rest of us in fulfilling our American dream. It takes optimism, not the half empty glass mentality that you seem comfortable with projecting.

Ray Fowler

Bravissimo!!

Dirk van Ulden

Why do we need to teach about racism in schools? All one needs to do is read letters written by the likes of Mr. Oberg. They exude racism.

Rel

Michael, as a white liberal, I agree teaching children about racism in our society embarrasses Republicans today because of their white supremacist elements. However, it would be a mistake to say either party has not been tainted by racism. Lincoln, in his debates with Douglass, felt blacks were not equipped intellectually as whites, did not wholeheartedly want to abolish slavery, and was only dragged into his evolved position on blacks due to political events around him. There was a period, not so many decades ago, Democrats in the South were absolutely racist ala Wallace et al. The parties switched emphasis shortly after the Civil Rights bill was passed under the guidance of Lyndon Johnson. History, however uncomfortable it makes us, must be accurately told if we are to learn well the lessons of the past.

Ray Fowler

Rel

Civil Rights... it doesn't happen in 1964 without Republican senator Everett Dirksen pushing Congressional Republicans to support legislation intended to end segregation. Remember, a higher ratio of Republicans voted for the Act than Democrats. This is about the time you see the deep South split nearly evenly between Republicans and Dems. While Dems pushed the Great Society, what was the actual outcome of those Dem entitlement programs? Well, civil rights and freedom for blacks came at a price of figurative enslavement to the Democratic Party. The start of "free stuff" for votes. Keep voting for Democrats and everything will be OK... until it's not. Look at our inner cities... especially black neighborhoods... those folks are trapped in those cities run by Democrats for decades. Those cities are concentration camps without barbed wire. In the face of violence, drugs, gangs, terrible schools, lack of jobs... Democrats... not Republicans... are now championing free Medicare for all and free college for everyone as black families disintegrate. Just keep voting for Democrats is the message. You know... Democrats... the party of choice, unless the choices are about schools, guns, health care, etc. Speaking of choice... black women are 5 times more likely to have an abortion than white women. Why are the majority of Planned Parenthood clinics within walking distance of black neighborhoods? Kinda looks like the choice to abort a child has already been made for those black women. 35% of the 60+ million children aborted since Roe V. Wade was decided have been black. That's not slavery, that's genocide.

Ray Fowler

Rel

There is no "faux" outrage... perhaps bewilderment at how the party founded by a slave trader now claims the other guys are the racists. Democrats seem to have no problem skipping over their heritage which includes the KKK in the 1800s and trying to stop passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. In this century, Democratic Party mayors and city councils keep Blacks living in deteriorating inner cities.

You claim DEI studies support the notion of systemic racism... can you cite just one? Are you really trying to suggest that things are worse now than the 1950s and 1960s? Are really trying to say things have not improved from a time when there was segregation, when inter-racial marriages were illegal, when voting was truly suppressed. How does a systemically racist country... with a Black population around 13%... elect an African-American president twice?

You wrote, "Our country was founded by slave owners and our norms of measurement and advancement were set from the outset... " Again, I'll do your homework for you. 55 delegates to the Constitutional Convention... 39 signers. How many owned or managed plantations? 11

Our history... the horrors of slavery, deprivation of rights, and discrimination over the years cannot be ignored, but for Democrats to sidestep their role in that history is intellectually dishonest. Of course, when the argument gets thin, many Democrats go straight to the old standby... it's Trump's fault. Never mind that increasing numbers of Blacks voted for the Donald in the last election because as someone once said to Black voters, "You ain't Black" if you vote for Trump. Then, it's back to January 6. Anyone who did not vote for Joe is a right-wing insurrectionist, and of course, racist.

Do you have any rebuttal to Professor Swain's remarks? Like I said, she probably knows more about this topic than anyone participating in this discussion.

Terence Y

Blah, blah, blah, here we go again with Mr. Oberg’s letter (monthly?) repeating the same stale arguments and Democrat talking points. Conflating election election integrity with voter suppression - sorry, but these are two different things. Conveniently forgetting embedded Antifa goons caused the riot – sorry, but half a million patriots would have caused a lot more damage if it were a true insurrection. Bellyaching about racism from white people – sorry, it was mostly white people who fought for, and freed slaves, and also helped to win WWII to keep our freedoms, continuing to allow people like Mr. Oberg, and other to spew as many lies as they want. Everyone knows these facts about our country’s heritage, history and democracy. Why doesn’t Mr. Oberg?

Tafhdyd

Terence,

What is good for the goose is good for the gander. You complain about Mr. Oberg writing about what you despise maybe once a month. That same freedom you speak of allows you to spew your conspiracy drivel and "The Big Lie" malarkey every day in the DJ. BTW, how are you doing with your bamboo fibers?

Terence Y

Taffy, I recognize your and Mr. Oberg’s right to spew fake news and debunked Democrat talking points just as I feel it’s my duty to relay facts and verifiable truths to refute conspiracy theories and outright lies from rabid Democrats and TDS-sufferers. BTW, our mutual friend Ray is easily refuting the Republican to Democrat party switcheroo nonsense (yet again) much better than I could. I notice nobody on the left seems to be able to answer any of Ray’s simple questions and instead tend to scurry away in the hopes of fighting another day (usually to no avail). It’s enough to give Ray a complex but I’m quite sure the inimitable Mr. Fowler can handle it. Meanwhile, in other news, possibly more evidence of voting machines being breached, a handgun ban for adults under 21 found to be unconstitutional (like we knew it would be), and AZ audit numbers don’t match the certified total (like who didn’t know that - the election was stolen). Ruh-roh. And in another bit of news, it’s been reported that a lightning strike on Tuesday afternoon in Toledo, Ohio struck, and destroyed a George Floyd mural. Take from that what you will. And Taffy, still no bumbling Biden accomplishment? C’mon man!

Tafhdyd

Terence,

I guess you still haven’t found a mirror. Many of us on the postings have tried to help you but it looks like you’re in firm denial. Like AA, you have to admit your problems and then ask for help. BTW, Ray and I have whipped that horse before. If I get some time I will have to have it exhumed and whip it again.

Terence Y

My dear Taffy – I notice when you get flustered and are unable to refute facts, you resort to your old stale “mirror” thing or your other old “you live in an alternate world” saw in an effort to hopelessly save face. Maybe if you chose to nurture your dissimilar heart, as Mr. Nagler suggested in his letter, and actually took the time to learn the truth, you wouldn’t get into these predicaments in the first place. That being said, you have a great day. In honor of Gustav Klimt’s birthday, please raise a glass and take some time to search for and view his art. For me, his art is a bit out there (I’m an MC Escher fan so saying Klimt is out there is in the eye of the beholder) and I think some might be better seen under the influence of a few glasses of wine, or something stronger.

Tafhdyd

Terence,

I was not familiar with Gustav Klimt and I did take a look but I will let you keep him, I will stay with Escher. I deal in facts and truth, you deal in fantasies and imagination. As you like to say, meanwhile, in other news, another tell all book is coming out about your great conman Trump and how unhinged and off the rails he was in the last year of his term. BTW, how are you doing with the bamboo fibers? Oh, I will have a glass or two and toast our great President Biden.

wlydecker

Teach the history of racism, but remember "truth is the sum of the facts, not some of the facts," a quote from "Philip's Code: No News is Good News - to a Killer." Tell students Lincoln was a Republican and slave owners were Democrats.

Jorg

Yes, but also make sure they understand that there has been a 180° turnaround politically since then! The slavery supporting Democrats of the old South, are not today’s Democrats, but philosophically closer to today’s Republicans. On the other hand, Lincoln and Republicans from the time of the Civil War, were more in line with today’s Democrats, not today’s Republicans. Their platforms, politics, thinking and attitudes have turned almost completely around. Look what’s behind each label!

Terence Y

Oh no, living-in-the-past Mr. Exclamation Points Jorg trying to pass on yet another debunked conspiracy theory! Sorry Jorg, Democrat begins with the letter D, and Republican begins with the letter R. Even if you rotate them 180 degrees there is still no magical switcheroo. Why are rabid Democrats trying to whitewash their history? The truth is out there.

wlydecker

The subject is history, not current events, but as long as we are teaching civics, I think the issue that caused the flip was abortion, not race. Remember "Reagan Democrats?" Blacks have a long history with the GOP. That should be part of the lesson.

Ray Fowler

Jorg

I think what you're trying to say is that modern Democrats can trace their roots back to the origins of the Republican Party. Not true. Modern Democrats can trace to their roots to Andrew Jackson. Ol' Hickory not only owned slaves, he was a successful slave trader.

The Democrats were the party of slavery. Abe Lincoln won the 1860 election with a 40% plurality. The Democratic Party split, but it wasn't the good anti-slavery Dems against the bad pro-slavery Dems. Dems garnered 60% of the popular vote which was split by three pro-slavery Democrats. Then, eleven of those states won by the party of slavery seceded from the Union shortly after the election. Republicans won the next two elections easily... part of the reason was Southern Democrats could not vote because of the Civil War. In 1872, Republicans continued to dominate the South due in part to the 15th Amendment. Lincoln's party... the party that freed the slaves pushed the 15th Amendment that allowed black males to vote. Up to this point, we haven't seen the Democrats jump into the struggle for civil rights... but some sure jumped into white robes and hoods.

The next election (1876) was a huge electoral fiasco, but you also saw white Democrats... some of them were the same Dems fighting to preserve slavery a dozen years earlier... take control of the deep South. White Democrats dominate presidential politics in the South for the next twenty election cycles. You remember how those Democrats eradicated racism in the late 1800s and the first half of the twentieth century... especially in the South? Oh, wait a minute... that didn't happen. As time marched on from the era Plessy v. Ferguson to FDR's New Deal, blacks were enslaved not by chains but by Democratic Party practices. That element of the Democratic Party could not be further removed from Abe Lincoln if they tried.

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