Editor,

During World War II, one could imagine the generals gathered in a bunker planning their next attack. The questions always included “what is the expected casualty loss.”

Then the top general would have to make the horrendous decision as to whether that loss was acceptable. Today, we are in the midst of a different kind of war, but a war nonetheless. The casualties are both in human life and economic loss. We are now coming to understand that our top general, POTUS, in his White House bunker made the economy his top priority. Based on mortality rates he figured we would lose 1-2 million people if we took no precautions, but the economy would be preserved. Yes, the hospitals would be overrun, but he figured the losses would mostly be the elderly and sickly. The humanitarians, led by Fauci, did what they could to stem the loss of human life but the end result is somewhere in the middle.

POTUS will undoubtedly point to the unemployment rate and the long lines for food as being the result of not following his direction. In his mind, the economy trumped human life. And I guess if it’s not you, your family or your friends dying alone in a hospital ICU bed this thinking may seem rational. Fortunately, the vaccines are arriving but many more will die before this war is over. This will not be the last such war we will have to fight. The question is will we learn from how we mishandled this pandemic? Will we establish priorities and will the preservation of human life rise to the top? Will we be willing to put aside our individual freedoms for the good of the collective? Will politicians value human life more than their political careers? Hopefully, we will not have to find out too soon. 

Steven Howard

Redwood City

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Dirk van Ulden

Taffy and Steven seem to ignore that it is our President who made sure that a vaccine could be developed within months. This vaccine is now made available to the rest of the world and was paid for by us, the tax payers. Also, in the US we report all deaths even remotely exacerbated caused by COVID19 as fully attributable to the virus. That is not the case in other countries where the virus must be the primary cause of death and reported accordingly. I now wonder what Steven et al will say in one year about the COVID19 strategy of brain-dead Biden.. And Steven, explain again how exactly Mr. Trump prioritized the economy over the health of our citizens? You sound like an armchair general.

Terence Y

I guess Mr. Howard is unwilling to acknowledge the other two million plus deaths occurring by other causes each year. Of course, if Mr. Howard did that, he wouldn’t be able to include his blah, blah, blah, TDS-infected Trump bad letter. BTW, if you’re not happy with the economy, why don’t you donate all your capital gains and dividends to Trump?

Tafhdyd

Mr. Howard,

A very well stated opinion about the current state of affairs. I believe many people in politics do value human life and our freedom as Americans, unfortunately the current corrupt administration cares about neither. Donald and his family of grifters seek only ways to enrich themselves at any cost. As we just saw over the weekend, he criminally told the Georgia Secretary of State to change the three times verified results to make him the winner. He is totally off the rails and mentally unfit for any further duty as President, (not that he ever was), and we can only hope we make it through the next two weeks of his vindictive petulant tantrums without serious harm to our nation and democracy.

Terence Y

Now how could I have guessed Taffy would take this opportunity to go off on another TDS-rant full of fake news and lies? BTW, Taffy, the election is not over.

Tafhdyd

Terence,

I suppose you think that the attempted mob boss style shake down of the Georgia SOC is the way a president is supposed to act, or didn't they report it on OAN or your Q-Anon newsletter?

Tommy Tee

Hey Terry--what do you think of YOUR corrupt president's call to Georgia? Ya think he'll pardon himself now to avoid prosecution for this illegal and Watergate-like corruption? Or, is your tinfoil hat fitting extra tight today?

Jorg

TT: I wonder, though, who helped Trump with the math to figure out the 11780 vote difference? In the infamous call, he seems to hesitate every time he has to repeat such a big number.

Terence Y

Grandpa Taffy, who, or what is the SOC? Secretary of Corruption? System on a Chip? Did your hunt and peck typing slip a row? Maybe you mean the Secretary of State who illegally updated Georgia’s voting machine software before the election? The same guy who certified the election results knowing almost half a million votes were missing chain of custody documentation? The same guy who leaked parts of a confidential phone call? And Tommy, I’ll happily refund your 4 cents. Other than cheering on Grandpa Taffy, your usual blather doesn’t add anything of value.

Tommy Tee

Poor Terry--spewing unfounded baseless allegations that have time and time again been thrown out of court. I get it--you're butt-hurt.

Tafhdyd

Terence,

Congratulations. I thought you were a bot but I guess you are a live person. Yes I hit the wrong key. Secretary of State is who I am talking about. As for your accusations, when are you going to show us the proof? BTW, the judges want to know the same thing.

Terence Y

That’s a good one, Grandpa Taffy! You're quite amusing when the alcohol wears off. What's even more amusing is that if I was a bot, I could so easily trigger you and others afflicted with TDS. Come to think of it, if anyone’s a bot, it would be your pal, Tommy Tee. Tommy only contributes mealy-mouthed comments and he likes to mirror your responses – your own personal cheerleader, if you will. BTW, proof is all over, you just need to widen that narrow mind of yours.

Tommy Tee

Just when you think Trump couldn't be more corrupt and unethical, he tries to bully Georgia. Fortunately, the Secretary of State set him straight!

Ray Fowler

Hello, Tafhdyd

Didn't you mean to say, "Joe and his family of grifters seek only ways to enrich themselves at any cost"? Sorry, I could not resist.

You did write that the president "criminally told the Georgia Secretary of State to change the three times verified results... " How did the conversation differ from what Donald Trump has been saying for several weeks? Did he commit a crime each time he publicly challenged the Georgia results? And what crime would that be?

It is a crime to surreptitiously record a phone conversation. Will you call for the prosecution of any Georgia officials who participated in that crime?

Re: the "verified" results in Georgia. While a recount was being conducted in accordance with Georgia law, the Georgia governor noted counting irregularities in Floyd, Douglas and Walton counties. Gosh... if you lost by a razor thin margin and the difference could have been those "verified" irregularities, wouldn't you continue to challenge the results? Oh, and while a recount was being conducted, thousands of uncounted ballots were discovered. Again, if you lost by a razor thin margin, given the discovery of uncounted ballots, wouldn't you continue to challenge the results?

Anyway... Wednesday will be interesting. I don't think the legal maneuvering will be successful. Although some pundits (how do you get that job?) have likened the challenge to the circumstances surrounding the 1876 election... I don't think the analogy holds true. Back when... you had competing reports of electoral college votes being submitted from the South. And the Democrats were OK with letting a Republican become president after some good old fashioned horse trading. That's not the case in 2021.

One last note... yeah, we all know about Al Gore contesting the 2000 election for several weeks in the courts. But we often forget Democrats trying reverse the 2004 election. They tried to contest the Ohio results much in the same way Georgia results are being challenged by Republicans in 2021. Maybe the shoe is on the other foot?

Tommy Tee

Ray--I get that your making excuses for Trump. That's fine. But since you are suggesting that it was a crime to record the call--let me educate you. Georgia only requires that one party on a phone call consents to recording.

Ray Fowler

I'm not making excuses for Donald Trump. I expect his challenges... But let's acknowledge that Democrats have made similar challenges in the past, too.

As I said earlier today, I don't expect any wrangling led by Ted Cruz to change anything on Wednesday. I have also have been saying for more than eight weeks that Joe Biden will be inaugurated on Jan. 20. Again, while I make no excuses for the president or any Republicans who claim the election is not over, I can understand their position. Things like vote tabulation irregularities in Georgia and a local judge in Pennsylvania changing vote counting protocols without authority... all this just pours gasoline on the voter fraud fire. Then there's Michigan... are you sitting down? The governor uses state police to keep Republican observers away from polling, the Michigan AG says lawyers who challenge results may be disbarred, and the MI secretary of state refuses to meet with legislatures re: the election. Do you think the response by some Republicans to such actions might be claims of voting "irregularities"?

Tennessee has a similar law with respect to the "one party" rules for recording phone conversations. The Georgia law allows such surreptitious recordings to be used in court. However, the recording made on Saturday (was that the day?) may not have been releasable in the manner it was made public. It may be unlawful to divulge recordings to an unauthorized person. I don't know. I'm not a lawyer, and I don't live in Georgia. While the recording may have been within Georgia law, using it outside of a legal proceeding may invade the privacy of the person recorded. Maybe. What do you think?

Ray Fowler

Hey, Tom Terrific... you offered to educate me.

Well, in Georgia, is divulging a surreptitiously recorded conversation to someone not part of the conversation lawful? It may not be a crime... but it could expose the person making the recording then releasing it subject to civil penalties. I don't know...

Jorg

Tommy Tee: After that infamous call, how can anyone in his right mind still support and believe in Trump? I think the answer is obvious.

Ray Fowler

Hello, Jorg

No one seemed to have an answer re: the following:

Another reader mentioned that the president "criminally told the Georgia Secretary of State to change the three times verified results... " How did that conversation differ from what Donald Trump has been saying for several weeks? Did he commit a crime each time he publicly challenged the Georgia results? And what crime would that be?

Any ideas?

Terence Y

Hey, it’s my buddy Jorg, who has been MIA for a while. He must have been hiding from Colonel Sanders. Why am I not surprised Jorg can only contribute another JUNC (Jorg’s Useless Nonsense Claptrap) comment.

Tafhdyd

Ray,

I am not sure about the recording of calls but I think all calls in or out of the White House are recorded and probably the same for the State. Unfortunately Trump does his best to destroy all records he should maintain so he can claim he is innocent when investigated. At the very least somewhere along the line there is probably the regular old "this call may be recorded for quality purposes" and that is that.

On the previous elections, once the courts decided the "hanging cha" debacle about 500+ votes in one state Gore conceded to Bush. In 2004 Kerry conceded the day after the election before the Democrats contested Ohio.

Ray Fowler

Nixon declined to initiate a recount, but he was fully supporting others to challenge the 1960 election. Plus, a concession speech is not legally binding. If the Ohio challenge would have change the certification of the vote, Kerry wins.

Tafhdyd

Ray,

Back to the question you asked about criminally telling the Georgia Secretary..... the statement by itself out of context probably is not but his call in complete context sounds like a threat and extortion to me and a lot of other people. Last I heard that would be a crime.

Ray Fowler

Extortion would require the use of force or a threat... no force, no threat, no extortion, no crime.

Patrick Henry

What we did in World War 2 is come together as a nation to defeat the enemy. This time, we were attacked by China and half the country decided to blame our own president for the pandemic. The problem this time is people like Steve. I am sure glad my relatives who served in WW2 did not have to fight with people like Mr. Howard in the trenches. All he would be doing is complaining that our leaders were not doing enough to keep him safe, warm and happy in his fox hole. If we are attacked again, I have no faith in many people in my own country to stand together and fight the common enemy. Mr. Howard, the virus came from our #1 enemy - China, wake up.

JustMike650

Are some of your extended/immediate family members born and raised in China. Chris?

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