Charles Schuttoffel Sr. Arson Murder Case

[Michael Stogner]

The Grand Jury Transcripts should be made public ASAP.

The Public has a right to know who the witness's were and what they testified to under oath.

In light of what is currently happening in San Mateo County, Sheriff Greg Munks and Under-Sheriff Carlos Bolanos, and my personal knowledge of the Sheriff's Department and the District Attorney's office knowingly and willfully preparing two different versions of a transcript, used in a Triple Muder Case.

I think it is important to find out who said what to get this gentleman charged.

Lets see the TRANSCRIPTS.

[George Spelvin]

Since I couldn't figure out what you're talking about, I Googled it. The grand jury transcripts were sealed because the defendant's attorney requested they be sealed. Call me stupid, but I read that to mean that they contain things that make the defendant look bad, and if released would prejudice the public against him. At least, that's what his attorney says.

So let me ask you -- why do you want them released prior to the trial, if both the judge and the defendant are concerned it would jeopardize the defense case to do so? What possible benefit could come of it, other than the satisfaction of your personal morbid curiosity? And why is your curiosity worth more than the defendant's right to a fair trial?

[Michael Stogner]

http://www.smdailyjournal.com/article_preview.php?id=75126

The public should ask......How many cases has the Private Defender Program won for their Client......

Its been said the the DA'S Office has a 97%- 99% conviction rate.

I am suprised it is that low, with this kind of representation.

[Michael Stogner]

Since I couldn't figure out what you're talking about, I Googled it. The grand jury transcripts were sealed because the defendant's attorney requested they be sealed. Call me stupid, but I read that to mean that they contain things that make the defendant look bad, and if released would prejudice the public against him. At least, that's what his attorney says.

So let me ask you -- why do you want them released prior to the trial, if both the judge and the defendant are concerned it would jeopardize the defense case to do so? What possible benefit could come of it, other than the satisfaction of your personal morbid curiosity? And why is your curiosity worth more than the defendant's right to a fair trial?

George, The Fire Marshall stated. " Fire was not set by Human Hands."

Don Horsley, said Jim Fox wanted a second opinion, and thats when we got busy.......I would like to know what Don Horsley meant by we got busy.
I think the transcripts would show how busy the Sheriff's Department and the District Attorney's Office got ....Who are the witness's who testified in the one sided Grand Jury.....

I think it is a fair question......

The defense attorney is paid by San Mateo County.

[coastbox]

The Grand Jury Transcripts should be made public ASAP.

The Public has a right to know who the witness's were and what they testified to under oath.

In light of what is currently happening in San Mateo County, Sheriff Greg Munks and Under-Sheriff Carlos Bolanos, and my personal knowledge of the Sheriff's Department and the District Attorney's office knowingly and willfully preparing two different versions of a transcript, used in a Triple Muder Case.

I think it is important to find out who said what to get this gentleman charged.

Lets see the TRANSCRIPTS.
And San Mateo County should be in court with whichever heartless, power-trippin, Vic Mackey impersonators are responsible for these erroneus allegations against Chuck.

Do you even know him? Have any idea how long it took for him to even begin to heal? Having his daughter only eased his pain enough to help him see a future he was certain had been lost.

And 3 years later he is arrested in front of his home, in front of his wife and daughter, and charged with murder??? If the DA and SMC Sheriffs were so certain of his guilt, how could they consciously allow him to be free long enough to have another child who now almost 2??

This is a small town...HMB Coast...we ALL know each other, whether or not we are "friends"... that kind of makes us family...

We already lost little Billy and Charlie Schuttloffel... we lost Mike Odom and "Rowdy", we lost Bob Lacey, we lost Alec Engel. We only 2 weeks ago lost our friend, Jamil Sutton, who at age 29, took his own life. The coast cries. WE cry. Chuck has enough pain in his heart to last all of our lifetimes combined. We won't lose him too!

Chuck Schuttloffel DID NOT take the lives of his 2 children. Of that I am certain. I'm not alone.

[Michael Stogner]

And San Mateo County should be in court with whichever heartless, power-trippin, Vic Mackey impersonators are responsible for these erroneus allegations against Chuck.

Do you even know him? Have any idea how long it took for him to even begin to heal? Having his daughter only eased his pain enough to help him see a future he was certain had been lost.

And 3 years later he is arrested in front of his home, in front of his wife and daughter, and charged with murder??? If the DA and SMC Sheriffs were so certain of his guilt, how could they consciously allow him to be free long enough to have another child who now almost 2??

This is a small town...HMB Coast...we ALL know each other, whether or not we are "friends"... that kind of makes us family...

We already lost little Billy and Charlie Schuttloffel... we lost Mike Odom and "Rowdy", we lost Bob Lacey, we lost Alec Engel. We only 2 weeks ago lost our friend, Jamil Sutton, who at age 29, took his own life. The coast cries. WE cry. Chuck has enough pain in his heart to last all of our lifetimes combined. We won't lose him too!

Chuck Schuttloffel DID NOT take the lives of his 2 children. Of that I am certain. I'm not alone.

Normally the Grand Jury Transcripts are made public after 10 days. Does anyone know if mr. Charels Schuttoffel or his family want the transcripts to be made public?

It is the only way to know who the witnesses were and what they supposedly testified to.

I have reported several times before in a recent Triple Murder case in San Mateo County, the DA Al Giannini confirmed the existence of a minium 2 (TWO) different versions of the TRANSCRIPT prepared by the Sheriff's/District Attorney Office.

For that reason I think it is important that the GJ Transcripts be made public...and FAST.

Best of Luck

Michael

[George Spelvin]

George, The Fire Marshall stated. " Fire was not set by Human Hands."

Don Horsley, said Jim Fox wanted a second opinion, and thats when we got busy.......I would like to know what Don Horsley meant by we got busy.
I think the transcripts would show how busy the Sheriff's Department and the District Attorney's Office got ....Who are the witness's who testified in the one sided Grand Jury.....

I think it is a fair question......

The defense attorney is paid by San Mateo County.

You didn't answer my question. My question is, why is your curiosity about these transcripts more important than the defendant's right to a fair trial? The defense attorney and the judge both think their release would poison the jury pool against the defendant, so, again, why should they be released? In a nutshell, why is your conspiracy theory more important than convicting or acquitting an accused murderer?

If your implication is that the defense attorney is throwing the case because he is paid by the Private Defender Program, and that he's therefore asking to suppress transcripts to cover up the fact that his client is really innocent, that's both misinformed and outright slanderous, and you should think carefully about your evidence before you make a claim like that. It's becoming increasingly clear that your expertise in the criminal justice system consists solely from what you've learned from TV.

[Michael Stogner]

You didn't answer my question. My question is, why is your curiosity about these transcripts more important than the defendant's right to a fair trial? The defense attorney and the judge both think their release would poison the jury pool against the defendant, so, again, why should they be released? In a nutshell, why is your conspiracy theory more important than convicting or acquitting an accused murderer?

If your implication is that the defense attorney is throwing the case because he is paid by the Private Defender Program, and that he's therefore asking to suppress transcripts to cover up the fact that his client is really innocent, that's both misinformed and outright slanderous, and you should think carefully about your evidence before you make a claim like that. It's becoming increasingly clear that your expertise in the criminal justice system consists solely from what you've learned from TV.

George, I have stated and I would testify under oath to this statement.
In a Triple Murder case here in San Mateo County Prosecutor Al Giannini confirmed that there were at least 2 different versions of the transcript prepared by the Sheriff Department and the District Attorney's office...

The Jury never knew of the two different versions......

That is why I am asking for the Transcripts to be made public. The Grand Jury only hears a one sided case...no defense witnesses.....

You might or might not be aware that our Sheriff and Undersheriff have just been caught in an illegal brothel 4/21/07 and they both have lied to the public about it, and have refused to answer the most simple of questions.

I want those transcripts made public if the defendant and his family want them made public.

Transcripts are normally made public after 10 days.

[Michael Stogner]

Today I went to the jail for the 4th time to visit Charles Schuttoffel.
I went to the courthouse to check on something and arrived back at 12:15PM for the 12:00-12:45 visitation time..

Deputy Huntoon said I was late where was I, and I missed the 12-12:45 visit
He told me to come back at the 1PM time. I told him I only needed to visit for 3 minutes and I would not be back at the 1PM time. he said fine and the inmate just lost a vist time.


Welcome to San Mateo County.

[Aion]

It wasn't clear from your last post - have you tried and not been able to see him 4 times now ?

Obviously you smell a rat in this case, and I don't think it's unjustified. Just wondering if you plan on trying again...

[Michael Stogner]

It wasn't clear from your last post - have you tried and not been able to see him 4 times now ?

Obviously you smell a rat in this case, and I don't think it's unjustified. Just wondering if you plan on trying again...

I went there twice today....I know they don't want me to meet him.

There are many red flags on this case....I only wanted to ask him if he was satisfied with his Defense Attorney paid for by San Mateo County. and did he personally want the TRANSCRIPTS from the GRAND JURY SEALED?

If he is satisfied with the Private Defender Program Attorney and he is happy that his own attorney is causing the Grand Jury Transcripts to remain sealed.....(they normally become public after 10 days) If he said yes to both of those questions I would have wished him the Best of Luck and my visit would have been complete.

San Mateo County Sheriff Deputy Huntoon must not share the same theory that Sheriff Greg Munks has...Helping Rebuild the lives of Inmates.

http://www.serviceleague.org/
Check out the Board of Directors

Hell he even cancelled one visit for this inmate...when the inmate never got the visit.....Why would that happen. I can understand me not being able to visit but why should the inmate or the inmates family suffer for this.

Deputy Huntoon wasn't very helpful at all.

Our Sheriff seems to talk a good story but his actions and the actions of (SOME not ALL) of his Deputies don't seem to be very sincere.

If anyone knows family of Mr. Charles Schuttoffell, and if the family would like a different attorney for him, please feel free to contact me.

Michaelgstogner@yahoo.com
650-921-7001

[Michael Stogner]

http://www.smdailyjournal.com/article_preview.php?id=77029

Hon. Judge Barbara Mallach

Bail hearing postponed yesterday.

Grand Jury Transcripts still not made public. The defense attorney is claiming the transcripts being made public could hurt his client in the court of public opinion. I say the transcripts not made public will hurt his client in the court with jurors.

Have the witnesses had a chance to review the transcripts to see what they say they testified to under oath. (In the Edith Delgado case a witness was clear he never said certain words that were in the transcript prepared by the DA'S office and presented in court.)

Transcripts can be altered.

Would the San Mateo County District Attorneys Office or the Sheriff's Office do anything unethical, dishonest or illegal?

Operation Doll House 4/21/07

Witness list: We the public do not know who testified against the defendant.

Did Don Horsley testify? He has been reported in the DJ saying " He is a Killer." thats pretty hurtful.

Did the Fire Marshall testify, He said "That fire was not caused by human-hands.

http://www.smdailyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=286

[Michael Stogner]

http://www.redwoodcitydailynews.com/article/2007-7-20-smc-arson-case

[Michael Stogner]

http://www.ktvu.com/news/13739957/detail.html

[Michael Stogner]

http://www.smdailyjournal.com/article_preview.php?id=78397

[Michael Stogner]

http://www.insidebayarea.com/sanmateocountytimes/ci_6508509

[Michael Stogner]

http://www.smdailyjournal.com/article_preview.php?id=78807

Next Court date September 12, 2007

[Michael Stogner]

Hon.Judge Barbara Mallach ruling stands.
In August, Hon.Judge Barbara Mallach ruled his right to a fair trial is not compromised by unsealing the 1,000-plus transcript but stayed the decision pending a higher court’s ruling. On Friday, the court alerted the District Attorney’s Office it would not reconsider the ruling.
Historical facts.
District Attorney Jim Fox already announced he will not seek the death penalty. This translates to the fact that San Mateo County Private Defender Program does not need to give him two attorneys to represent him.....Saves taxpayers money and it is easier to beat a single over worked attorney.Steve Wagstaffe stated that by not going for the death penalty this saves the taxpayers money because the defendant does not have the right to two attorneys paid for by the Private Defender Program.
At the time of fire 2004 the fire marshall told us this fire was not set by human hands but the DA (James P. Fox and Steve Wagstaffe) wanted a second opinion and then everybody got busy, statement by Don Horsley
It is going to be interesting to see if this same Fire Marshall testified to the San Mateo County Grand Jury.

Speaking of saving taxpayers money the defense attorney paid for by the taxpayers has continued to waste money on keeping the transcripts sealed.
How much? time will tell.

[George Spelvin]

District Attorney Jim Fox already announced he will not seek the death penalty. This translates to the fact that San Mateo County Private Defender Program does not need to give him two attorneys to represent him.....Saves taxpayers money and it is easier to beat a single over worked attorney.Steve Wagstaffe stated that by not going for the death penalty this saves the taxpayers money because the defendant does not have the right to two attorneys paid for by the Private Defender Program.

Wait -- are you seriously suggesting that the reason they didn't file for the death penalty is so they'll only be up against one lawyer? Or are you suggesting that it would have been a good thing to file this as a capital case so he would have two attorneys?

Please tell me you're not serious.

[Michael Stogner]

Wait -- are you seriously suggesting that the reason they didn't file for the death penalty is so they'll only be up against one lawyer? Or are you suggesting that it would have been a good thing to file this as a capital case so he would have two attorneys?

Please tell me you're not serious.

George, I am saying it is easier to beat one overworked attorney.
Also Steve Wagstaffe said by not charging for the death penalty he was entitled to only one attorney...

Still no transcripts.

[Michael Stogner]

http://www.smdailyjournal.com/article_preview.php?id=84483

[efto1]

George, I am saying it is easier to beat one overworked attorney.
Also Steve Wagstaffe said by not charging for the death penalty he was entitled to only one attorney...

Still no transcripts.



Couldn't the judicial system in this county save a great deal of money by either excepting or offering those accused of certain crimes to submit to the new lie detector test http//www.noliemri.com/ ?

[Michael Stogner]

Since I couldn't figure out what you're talking about, I Googled it. The grand jury transcripts were sealed because the defendant's attorney requested they be sealed. Call me stupid, but I read that to mean that they contain things that make the defendant look bad, and if released would prejudice the public against him. At least, that's what his attorney says.

So let me ask you -- why do you want them released prior to the trial, if both the judge and the defendant are concerned it would jeopardize the defense case to do so? What possible benefit could come of it, other than the satisfaction of your personal morbid curiosity? And why is your curiosity worth more than the defendant's right to a fair trial?

George,
You said Judge and Defendant wanted it sealed. That is not the case here. Also it looks like the Fire Marshall was not called as a witness to the Grand Jury. The Fire Marshall who was quoted as saying this fire was NOT caused be human hands.....I'm sure that was just an oversight.

[Michael Stogner]

The defenses private investigator took the stand today. His name is William Cody he has been employed by both the San Mateo County Sheriff and the District Attorney Office. As a matter of fact he was the Chief Inspector for the DA's office at the time of the fire May 04, 2004. He held that position until the time he retired in August 2006.

[Michael Stogner]

http://www.smdailyjournal.com/article_preview.php?id=89747

Sheriff’s Sgt. Craig Denton was the lead Detective of the Major Crime Unit for San Mateo County Sheriff Office at the time of fire.

He had determined in his own mind that this was a crime scene. He had come to this conclusion before he even arrived at the scene. He treated it as a crime scene yet never had any conversations with Chief Inspector William Cody of the DA's Office about it being a crime.

[Michael Stogner]

May 4, 2004
First words spoken from Sheriff Det. Craig Denton to Lana S. the woman who just lost her two boys in the fire of her family home.

Where is the meth lab?

This is the same San Mateo County Sheriff who determined in his patrol car on the way to a reported fire that this was a crime scene.

Welcome to San Mateo County

[Lil Ol' Me]

When an officer hears of an explosion/fire, you would hope he does treat it as a crime scene until proven otherwise. Surely, with all your expertise in the field of criminal justice you would know it is much easier to start with a crime and work it down to an accident if the facts support it, rather than assume an accident, let the scene be overly compromised and try to work it from an accident into a crime scene. Its the basics of investigation....

[Michael Stogner]

When an officer hears of an explosion/fire, you would hope he does treat it as a crime scene until proven otherwise. Surely, with all your expertise in the field of criminal justice you would know it is much easier to start with a crime and work it down to an accident if the facts support it, rather than assume an accident, let the scene be overly compromised and try to work it from an accident into a crime scene. Its the basics of investigation....

Are you suggesting Sheriff Det. Craig Denton was told he is going to an explosion/fire? not a residential fire, or a fire at a house?

He being the expert would know about Flashover, an explosion like event that occurs in fires.

Of course it might be easier to start with a crime and work it down to an accident. The one little problem with that is once you mentally declare it a crime its not that easy for San Mateo County Sheriff's to admit they were wrong, and they might over look some evidence, etc. or disregard a 30 year experienced Arson Investigator's opinion etc.

Like yesterday Sean G. did not want the investigator to state his opinion about the fire, he argued that he was not called to the fire scene as the lead investigator.He was just there to help......What would his opinion matter only 30 years or fire arson experience. Would he know if a fire was set by human hands or not I think so.

Sean G. wanted none of that.

[Michael Stogner]

Judge Barbara Mallach will issue her ruling on April 14, 2008.

The widely held theory is that Schuttloffel was despondent over plans by his wife to leave him.

This theory might be widely held by a very small group of powerful people. Steve Wagstaffe, James P. Fox, Sean Gallagher, Aaron Fitzgerald, Don Horsley, Craig Denton. Rick Tippins, Gary Ramos aka Sobe.

There is one gentleman by the name of William Cody who does not share that opinion. He was the Chief Inspector for San Mateo County District Attorneys Office at the time of fire. He was in charge of all investigations and investigators of criminal cases in the County. Nobody from the Sheriff Department ever brought this case to him.
Today he is the lead Private Investigator for Charles Schuttlofel
Prosecutor Sean Gallagher asked questions of Lana Schuttloffel designed to show the case was never closed but the couple had shut down communication with law enforcement.
Lets see if that is true,
She met personally with James P. Fox in his office
She called San Mateo County Sheriff Deputy Tippins (who testified he was perplexed.) with the call.
She called San Mateo County Sheriff Deputy Craig Denton twice. He was the lead detective who determined in his own mind, this was a meth lab explosion, before he ever got to the scene.

" Where is the Meth Lab" first words out of his mouth to Lana S.
He also is credited with telling Lana the mother of two small boys who had just died in the fire.

"We found two bodies, its over."

Sean Gallagher has just taught all residents of San Mateo County a very important lesson.

If your home burns to the ground you should contact the Sheriff's Department and the District Attorney's Office every couple of months for at least the next 2 or 3 years to see if the Sheriff thinks you are guilty, and he will think you are guilty, as Don Horsley has demonstrated in this case by making a public statement as the Director of Sequoia Hospital District.
"The fire marshall told us this fire was not set by human hands but the DA wanted a second opinion and then everybody got busy,” Horsley said.

Welcome to San Mateo County

[Michael Stogner]

http://www.assocfire.com/davidsmith.html

Schuttloffel Case
Defense expert witness David M. Smith testified Friday April 4, 2008.

He was asked if he had read/reviewed the 3 investigative reports presented to the Grand Jury including approx 1,000 photos. He answered yes.

He was asked in his opinion, was this crime scene investigated properly to sufficiently to rule out several potential causes of the fire.

A) Was not

Q) Was it sufficient to rule out the 2 children as cause?

A) Was not.

Q) Was it sufficient to rule out all electrical appliances?

A) Was not.

Q) Was it sufficient to rule out the wood-burning stove?

A) Was not.

Q) Was it sufficient to identify the point of origin of the fire.

A) No

[Michael Stogner]

Mar 22, 2008 tbarak@examiner.com Tamara Barak Aparton
Steve Wagstaffe recent quote in SF Examiner

“The reason for the delay was that there was a fairly constant and ongoing investigation to show who was responsible for this,” Wagstaffe said. “It remained open and finally reached a level where we thought there was enough evidence to file charges.”

The 34 month delay.

Fairly constant and ongoing investigation. What means this?
It means no Sheriff of DA Investigator went to the fire scene after the first week.

It means when Lana S. met with James P. Fox in his office over two years later he did not know about this fairly constant and ongoing investigation. He told her it is not a crime scene if there is no yellow tape,

It means Sheriff Rick Tippins didn't know about the fairly constant and ongoing investigation. He testified he was perplexed when Lana called him to get permission to demolish the family home.

It means lead Det. Craig Denton didn't know about the fairly constant and ongoing investigation, when Lana S. called him twice to get him to contact the building department to release the hold on the property the Sheriff Department now denies existed. Had he known about the fairly constant and ongoing investigation he would have told Lana S. NO you can not destroy the crime scene. He didn't, he told her the Sheriff's Department has no hold on your property. He fired off an e-mail.

Steve Wagstaffe said

“It remained open and finally reached a level where we thought there was enough evidence to file charges.”

Steve means they finally found an expert witness to testify under the penalty of perjury to the Grand Jury, that would say what was needed to indict Charles Schuttoffel.

The Grand Jury is a one sided presentation.

Welcome to San Mateo County

[jonvn]

Do you like, have a job or anything?

[Michael Stogner]

Do you like, have a job or anything?

Sure why do you ask?

[jonvn]

Oh, no reason.

[Michael Stogner]

Next court date April 28, 2008


http://www.smdailyjournal.com/article_preview.php?id=90400

[Michael Stogner]

Charles Schuttloffel has accepted a plea deal with the San Mateo District Attorney’s Office today 4/18/08 for two counts of involuntary manslaughter. The negotiated deal dismisses the Schuttloffel’s original charges of two counts of murder and arson, which would have carried a possible life sentence without parole.

This saves San Mateo County Law Enforcement Industry a lot of explaining.

[Lil Ol' Me]

prison. If he was so innocent, why plead?

[Michael Stogner]

prison. If he was so innocent, why plead?

James P. Fox, Steve Wagstaffe and Sean Gallagher chose to fold. Why?

After all this time why didn't they go to trial with the original charges?

Why offer a plea?

[Michael Stogner]

prison. If he was so innocent, why plead?

Dear LOM.

Some people have been known to confess to crimes they did not commit.

We don't have that in this case. No confession by anyone, not even SMCSO

You will recall I'm sure when San Mateo County Sheriff's Officers from the Major Crime Unit Joseph Farmer and Gary Ramos confessed for Eddie Rapoza III 10/09/02 9:00 PM Confession in Farmer's voice.
Created the existence of a Sobe Soda Softdrink Bottle in police report and later testified under oath about its existence.

No Sobe Bottle ever entered into evidence.

So at least in this case we don't have the Sheriff's Department confessing for him, We don't know how the fire started, or who started it. Could have been one or both of the children, could have been an electrical appliance, could have been a number of causes. What we do know now 4 years later is that San Mateo County Sheriff and the District Attorney Office have always known they had NO EVIDENCE that Charles Schuttloffel started that fire.

Perhaps our Congresswomen Jackie Speiers and Ana Eshoo can help set up an oversight/review system so that James P. Fox, Steve Wagstaffe don't overcharge innocent citizens and then place them on NO BAIL status to later
force them to accept a plea, they should not have to.

Welcome to San Mateo County

[voiceinyourhead]

People confess to crimes they don't commit? Where at the safe guards? Who is to blame?

(everyone pause here for dramatic effect)

Fact is, no person can be convicted unless there is what is called "corpus." Basically, someone can come in and confess, but unless there is corrobroating evidence that that person actually committed the crime, there can be no conviction. This principle has been upheld time and again in teh appellate courts. Ask any defense attorney worth his salt. Fact is, in SMC, we have one of the finest defense bars around, where people don't plead unless corpus is proved. Try quoting someone for a change Stogner.

[Michael Stogner]

Charles Schuttloffel was sentenced today.

He has approx. 6 months in prison.

James P. Fox and Steve Wagstaffe always knew they had NO ARSON CASE PERIOD. I honestly believe both of them and others have abused their oath in this case.

[mrs.frankb]

I'm surprised at you, Stogner. You really think our DA abused his power? Wow - hasn't he been doing that for over 2 decades? Check his record. He is a good part of the glue that helps hold the San Mateo power structure in place.

[Michael Stogner]

I'm surprised at you, Stogner. You really think our DA abused his power? Wow - hasn't he been doing that for over 2 decades? Check his record. He is a good part of the glue that helps hold the San Mateo power structure in place.

I know its not shocking NEWS, I was just hoping in the Schuttloffel case that there was some evidence that would have proven that an Arson Case existed.

IT DID NOT.

A match book, a can of gasoline, a road flare, a lighter, you know something that might have started the fire.

Didn't James P. Fox and Steve Wagstaffe realize that someday down the road a trial was going to take place.....What were they thinking?

[voiceinyourhead]

James P. Fox and Steve Wagstaffe are the public figures, but the individual DA's hold discression. DDA Sean Gallagher, a very capable DA with lots of convictions under his belt, was in charge of this case from the start, and while he may inform Wagstaffe, and indirectly Fox, of what he is doing, Gallagher is more than capable and experienced enough to make his own decisions on the case.

Seriously, Mike, what's our hard on for Fox and Wagstaffe? Wronged in a past life?