Recall Sheriff Greg Munks

[Michael Stogner]

I have received the paper work today from Warren Slocum's office.

I intend to file the documents to recall our Sherrif Greg Munks.

I have no confidence that Sherrif Greg Munks will resign.

He is supported by the District Attorney's Office specifically Steve Wagstaffe.

He is supported by Supervisor Jerry Hill.

If any citizens wish to help in this cause, your help is welcome.

Michaelgstogner@yahoo.com

[Michael Stogner]

http://www.smdailyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=278

Sheriff Greg Munks witheld arrest information and photo of the 23 yr old San Mateo County Employee.

[chris24g76]

I have received the paper work today from Warren Slocum's office.

I intend to file the documents to recall our Sherrif Greg Munks.

I have no confidence that Sherrif Greg Munks will resign.

He is supported by the District Attorney's Office specifically Steve Wagstaffe.

He is supported by Supervisor Jerry Hill.

If any citizens wish to help in this cause, your help is welcome.

Michaelgstogner@yahoo.com
Just to clarify . . . what is your complaint against Munks? Because he went to a brothel or because he went to an illegal brothel?

[Tommy]

I believe if you recall someone you need to name a replacement.

[Diamond Dog]

I nominate Michael Stogner, who might be happier working for a living instead of posting rants on this forum all day.


I believe if you recall someone you need to name a replacement.

[wilburt]

Michael,

Doesn't Munks have to (1) be in office 6 months before you can recall him or (2) can you start recalling him 6 months after he is elected?

If (1) can start recall in July
If (2) can start recall now

[Michael Stogner]

Michael,

Doesn't Munks have to (1) be in office 6 months before you can recall him or (2) can you start recalling him 6 months after he is elected?

If (1) can start recall in July
If (2) can start recall now


Wilburt,
I just got the doc's I'll check and get back to you. I know you can't file for recall if he has 6 months or less to serve.

[chris24g76]

Keep us posted.

[Michael Stogner]

Wilburt,
I just got the doc's I'll check and get back to you. I know you can't file for recall if he has 6 months or less to serve.

Wilburt,
The Sheriff must have been in office more than 90 days before a recall Notice of Intent can be filed.

Greg Munks took over on Jan 8, 2007 I believe. Over 90 days

[Michael Stogner]

I believe if you recall someone you need to name a replacement.

Tommy, No replacement required

[Buggs]

Where do I go to sign the recall petition?

[As If]

We the residents of San Mateo have made some bad choices and now we are paying for it. Everytime I see our elected officials acting and saying stupidities I can name a few, Foulcrault, Hill, and now Munk and some I rather not name "yet" leaves me numb.
We will eventually have to have a replacement. Hummm.. what to do? WHO will it be?

Can we do something about making some of these Elected positions into Hirings? That way Termination is an option. Si?

[chris24g76]

You know who’s really to blame for all this? The limo driver.

What I’ve learned is that Las Vega’s limo drivers don’t know where the good massage parlors are. Had the limo driver taken our Sheriff and Undersheriff to a legitimate business (the best our taxes could afford) none of this would have happened. We would not be any wiser. Ignorance is bliss.

I will get the paperwork together to have this man fired. He’ll never drive a limo again as far as I’m concerned.

Who’s with me?

[Michael Stogner]

The Notice of intent to file for recall.

20 signatures of registered voters in San Mateo County

email me

michaelgstogner@yahoo.com

[wilburt]

Michael,

A site needs to be put online to get out the word and provide information. San Mateo County covers a lot of territory so you need to get out the word and organize.

[Michael Stogner]

Michael,

A site needs to be put online to get out the word and provide information. San Mateo County covers a lot of territory so you need to get out the word and organize.

i agree and can use all the help, so any ideas are greatly appreciated. Also I see many people around the County are having the same conversation. The important thing for now is to let Greg Munks know that if he does not resign he will face recall.That I and others promise
I am targeting for next thursday to have the signatures to file.

I would like to have discussions for replacement names.

Trisha Sanchez is our highest ranking female Sheriff Deputy, she is responsible for the Maquire Jail currently. I would like to know if she is interested and qualified...

let me know your thoughts

[wilburt]

i agree and can use all the help, so any ideas are greatly appreciated. Also I see many people around the County are having the same conversation. The important thing for now is to let Greg Munks know that if he does not resign he will face recall.That I and others promise
I am targeting for next thursday to have the signatures to file.

I would like to have discussions for replacement names.

Trisha Sanchez is our highest ranking female Sheriff Deputy, she is responsible for the Maquire Jail currently. I would like to know if she is interested and qualified...

let me know your thoughts

:)

Trisha Sanchez would be an excellent choice, and very fitting as a replacement for Munks in view of the fact that Munks was caught at a place where women are routinely degraded.

Munks and his ilk at the Sheriff's Office must learn to have more respect for women.

The best way to send them that message would be for the voters of San Mateo County to replace him with a woman Sheriff.

[Michael Stogner]

:)

Trisha Sanchez would be an excellent choice, and very fitting as a replacement for Munks in view of the fact that Munks was caught at a place where women are routinely degraded.

Munks and his ilk at the Sheriff's Office must learn to have more respect for women.

The best way to send them that message would be for the voters of San Mateo County to replace him with a woman Sheriff.

I think having Trisha Sanchez as Sheriff would be better for the women in our jails and the children in Hillcrest...Safer at least.

Also she has experience arresting our County Manager at an Adult Bookstore only to have our District Attorney James P. Fox fail to do the job he was elected to do and lie about it later to reporter Jean Whitney.

She knows what it is like to see corruption in San Mateo County and not be able to do anything about it.

Lets find out if she is interested.

[Michael Stogner]

I respectfully disagree with the Union that represents 400 deputies, correctional officers and others.

http://www.redwoodcitydailynews.com/article/2007-4-28-04-28-07-smc-sheriff

praise for their integrity and abilities...What means this?

Integrity?...They refuse to answer simple questions.

"There have been no calls by anyone in a position of power for an investigation into the facts surrounding the incident."

I am not calling for an investigation, I am filing a notice of Intent for RECALL.

I don't want these two fine gentleman around our women, girls and boys in our jails. They were found in a house of Human Trafficking.

[Michael Stogner]

I respectfully disagree with the Union that represents 400 deputies, correctional officers and others.

http://www.redwoodcitydailynews.com/article/2007-4-28-04-28-07-smc-sheriff

praise for their integrity and abilities...What means this?

Integrity?...They refuse to answer simple questions.

"There have been no calls by anyone in a position of power for an investigation into the facts surrounding the incident."

I am not calling for an investigation, I am filing a notice of Intent for RECALL.

I don't want these two fine gentleman around our women, girls and boys in our jails. They were found in a house of Human Trafficking.

Cute Trick......

Instead, both the sheriff and undersheriff's offices have directed all questions to spokeswoman Lt. Lisa Williams, who has said she doesn't know details of the brothel incident.

[Michael Stogner]

Chief Susan Mannheimer I heard her contract might be ending. Does anyone know if she would be interested in being our Sheriff.

I think she would be Great.

I'm confident she does not share the same belief of Supervisor Jerry Hill, and Rose Gibbson, and the Sheriff's Deputies Union.

[mrs.frankb]

Don't worry about the support of Hill - He'll figure out a way to save himself and wiggle out of his strong but ill-advised statement about Monk having a wonderful record - by the way, how could that be? Monks has only been in office a mattr of months!

[Michael Stogner]

AsIf,
Great question, I think we are seeing a very good example of why San Mateo County is in the condition it is in.

Carlos Bolanos the Undersheriff is hired. The San Mateo County Board of Supervisor (which are elected) supports his behavior 100%. They have no intention of dismissing him as of today. He has been employeed by San Mateo County less than 4 months....He should be terminated, he is not.

By Rich Gordon, Marck Church, and Adrianne T. not taking and stand, I say they are in support 100%

Greg Munks is elected, they have no say or influence over him. We Do.

Best

Michael





We the residents of San Mateo have made some bad choices and now we are paying for it. Everytime I see our elected officials acting and saying stupidities I can name a few, Foulcrault, Hill, and now Munk and some I rather not name "yet" leaves me numb.
We will eventually have to have a replacement. Hummm.. what to do? WHO will it be?

Can we do something about making some of these Elected positions into Hirings? That way Termination is an option. Si?

[Michael Stogner]

Just to clarify . . . what is your complaint against Munks? Because he went to a brothel or because he went to an illegal brothel?


http://www.lvrj.com/news/7183331.html

[Michael Stogner]

http://www.bakervegas.com/results.shtml

Results no posted yet........

[Michael Stogner]

A statement, not over 200 words in length, of the reasons for recall;

suggestions welcome.

[Michael Stogner]

A statement, not over 200 words in length, of the reasons for recall;

suggestions welcome.

from the Coast

BASIS FOR RECALL:

WHEREAS, Sheriff Munks took an oath to uphold the law and has failed to honor that oath;

WHEREAS, Sheriff Munks was caught at an illegal house of prostitution on the night of April 21 2007 in a sting operation by Nevada and Federal authorities;

WHEREAS, Sheriff Munks chose not to accept responsibility for his actions and continues to deny wrongdoing;

WHEREAS, Sheriff Munks has, through his immoral, unethical and illegal actions, set a bad role model for the youth of San Mateo County;

WHEREAS, Sheriff Munks has lost the respect and trust of his fellow police officers and citizens of San Mateo county, and thus his ability to lead;

WHEREAS, Sheriff Munks began his term in January 2007 and would remain in office until 2011 if not recalled;

WHERAS, Sheriff Munks and his team embarrassed the County Of San Mateo in the Baker to Vegas run by finishing a pathetic 213th out of 218 teams.

[Michael Stogner]

NOTICE OF INTENTION
RECALL
Greg Munks Sheriff of San Mateo County



BASIS FOR RECALL:

WHEREAS, Sheriff Munks took an oath to uphold the law and has failed to honor that oath;

WHEREAS, Sheriff Munks concealed the arrest information of a San Mateo County Probation Department Employee Carlos Ordonez for a time period of 13 days and continued to conceal the booking photo after the arrest was made public. Arrest date February 24, 2007.
San Mateo County Sheriff Lt. Lisa Williams stated.
"His booking photo is not being released because the investigation is on going."

WHEREAS, Sheriff Munks was caught at an illegal house of prostitution on the night of April 21 2007 in a sting operation by Nevada and Federal authorities;

WHEREAS, Sheriff Munks chose not to accept responsibility for his actions and continues to deny wrongdoing;

WHEREAS, Sheriff Munks has, through his immoral, unethical and illegal actions, set a bad role model for the youth of San Mateo County;

WHEREAS, Sheriff Munks has lost the respect and trust of his fellow police officers and citizens of San Mateo county, and thus his ability to lead;

WHEREAS, Sheriff Munks began his term in January 2007 and would remain in office until 2011 if not recalled;

[wilburt]

Sheriff Munks:

Your constituents have a right to know what happened in
Las Vegas. Please tell us what happened in Las Vegas?

[Michael Stogner]

http://www.topix.net/forum/source/san-mateo-daily-news/TMPGFGH6UCONC8R8U

[Michael Stogner]

The Daily Journal Poll

over 4600 votes........92%.......RESIGN

[Mary Beth]

I agree, get Munks out of office and his massage partner. Then start cleaning up the corruption at the SMSO.

[Michael Stogner]

Please submit any and all questions to me that you want our Sheriff Greg Munks to reply to.... I need them by Thursday 12:00 noon.

Friday I will mail by Certified Mail to him giving him 30 days to reply.

Thank You all for your support in this effort.

Michael G. Stogner

Michaelgstogner@yahoo.com

[rocdad]

See interesting article in regards to Sheriff Munks (http://bobonit-news.blogspot.com/2007/05/reimbursements-resignations-and_08.html) at the whorehouse... Bobs blog (http://bobonit-news.blogspot.com/):cool:

[wilburt]

See interesting article in regards to Sheriff Munks (http://bobonit-news.blogspot.com/2007/05/reimbursements-resignations-and_08.html) at the whorehouse... Bobs blog (http://bobonit-news.blogspot.com/):cool:

:eek:

Las Vegas Bordello Races !!!!!!

[Michael Stogner]

:eek:

Las Vegas Bordello Races !!!!!!


That's more like it....A lot more people will be there next year for sure now.

So much for Baker to Vegas...thats boring.

[Mary Beth]

Well, maybe Munks can run the Bordelo Baker race with his pants down and get better results than he did in the race. :eek: If you're going to come in last why bother? Running clearly was not the point of this experience. Now, that we know county funds were used to pay for their Bordelo Bang, shouldn't Munks and Bolanos pay that back too?

[Tommy]

Mary Beth,


No--it was "Team Building" and we know what "member" Munks was trying to increase....

[Michael Stogner]

http://www.kron4.com/Global/story.asp?S=6489459

[Mary Beth]

Tommy-
It was a "team building" workshop so they could all come across the finish line at the same time...:D One would think this guy would be so embarrassed he'd run out of office!

[Michael Stogner]

Some people have suggested Lt. John Quinlan.

http://www.topix.net/forum/source/san-mateo-daily-news/TCONOT4QMFINCJ85R#lastPost

[Jerry Arrow]

I am targeting for next thursday to have the signatures to file.
let me know your thoughts


Michael Stogner,

You have stated that this board is nothing more than a form of entertainment. I agree with you 100% in your assessment. Have you submitted the signatures as you so promised? In your investigation concerning "Operation Dollhouse" do you know if Sheriff Munks has a child with the first name of "Chip"? Can you mention the names of the people along with you who are on the committee to recall the Sheriff? Have you contacted the Sheriff's wife and/or father-in-law and asked them to sign the petition for the sheriff's recall? Esteemed fellow poster, Roscoe Beetle has hinted that Munks may have had the frying skillet hit over the head and may be sleeping with the dog right at this moment. Just think what embarrassment you can cause by having them both sign the recall petition. Will either one of them be signature monitors for the recall at entrances to the major grocery store chains? If Diamond dog were nominated to replace Munks, would you personally support him? If so, I nominate Diamond Dog for sheriff's candidate. If you don't support the dog, I then nominate you. Do you think Dog, the Bounty Hunter would make a good undersheriff? His entire family, including his wife, Beth and son, Youngblood, come along as a package deal, five or six for the price of one. http://www.dogthebountyhunter.com/ Don't forget "In Dog We Trust". It is my understanding that you will need a minimum of 32,500 signatures for the recall to go through. Is that a correct figure? Will the county ask for personal identification if you get signatures from supporters such as "actionhero11, bluesbasscat and Desert Rat? When do you intend to send in the recall petition to the County to get the ball rolling, so to say? Have you had any contact from 2Smart 4U concerning this debacle? Don't you think 2 Smart might have some interesting suggestions? Do you think a fair punishment for Munks would be eternity as a cell mate with William Ayres, where they can really play Dollhouse?

[wilburt]

Munks was caught up in a sting that was targeting the whorehouse he was at where drug dealers, prostitutes, and other criminals hang out. Does anybody think that Munks is himself engaged in organized crime activities?

[Michael Stogner]

Michael Stogner,

You have stated that this board is nothing more than a form of entertainment. I agree with you 100% in your assessment. Have you submitted the signatures as you so promised? In your investigation concerning "Operation Dollhouse" do you know if Sheriff Munks has a child with the first name of "Chip"? Can you mention the names of the people along with you who are on the committee to recall the Sheriff? Have you contacted the Sheriff's wife and/or father-in-law and asked them to sign the petition for the sheriff's recall? Esteemed fellow poster, Roscoe Beetle has hinted that Munks may have had the frying skillet hit over the head and may be sleeping with the dog right at this moment. Just think what embarrassment you can cause by having them both sign the recall petition. Will either one of them be signature monitors for the recall at entrances to the major grocery store chains? If Diamond dog were nominated to replace Munks, would you personally support him? If so, I nominate Diamond Dog for sheriff's candidate. If you don't support the dog, I then nominate you. Do you think Dog, the Bounty Hunter would make a good undersheriff? His entire family, including his wife, Beth and son, Youngblood, come along as a package deal, five or six for the price of one. http://www.dogthebountyhunter.com/ Don't forget "In Dog We Trust". It is my understanding that you will need a minimum of 32,500 signatures for the recall to go through. Is that a correct figure? Will the county ask for personal identification if you get signatures from supporters such as "actionhero11, bluesbasscat and Desert Rat? When do you intend to send in the recall petition to the County to get the ball rolling, so to say? Have you had any contact from 2Smart 4U concerning this debacle? Don't you think 2 Smart might have some interesting suggestions? Do you think a fair punishment for Munks would be eternity as a cell mate with William Ayres, where they can really play Dollhouse?

Jerry...good to see you back.......
Tomorrow I will be mailing by certified letter....2 parts
1) I am requesting both Greg Munks and Carlos Bolanos resign or retire.
2) several pages of questions to be answered within 30 days from reciept.

The 20 signatures required for the Notice of Intent to be filed when I file it.
I have not submitted them yet.
I will let as many people sign as they want..it will be more than the 20 needed.

I will not talk about Sheriff Greg Munks Children or his devoted family.
I am only interested in the voters.

2 smart is to smart for this one...

Also have you noticed that this site often has at least 5 more observers on then counted.....Might be that super criminal computer the Sheriff and DA/Probation Department have been working on.....

Lets vote

[Michael Stogner]

Munks was caught up in a sting that was targeting the whorehouse he was at where drug dealers, prostitutes, and other criminals hang out. Does anybody think that Munks is himself engaged in organized crime activities?

Lets think about this from April 21, 2007 to May 10, 2007 this was about.
Human trafficking, uderage girls from a forien country held against there will.

After Mrs. FrankB contacts Congress people......A new FBI Guy determines that all the other law enforcement units/ FBI/ METRO/IRS were completely wrong...and this is now a case of Happy Adult Women making good money.

FBI Guy......Mr. Dave Staretz.......nice work....

[Michael Stogner]

What kind of TEAM was/is Sheriff Greg Munks building.....

From what we have learned so far his Team from San Mateo County consisted of Probation Department 25, District Attorney Office 3, and Sheriff Deputies

Redwood City Police were represented but I did not see any other Police Department from San Mateo County there. No EPA,MP.Atherton,Half Moon Bay, Colma, Daly City, Pacifica, Brisbane, San Bruno, Millbrae, San Mateo, Belmont, San Carlos.....

Are they not on his TEAM?

[Michael Stogner]

http://bobonit-news.blogspot.com/

Las Vegas Police Spokesperson Bill Cassell.

" I'm prepared to say they were actually customers."

" Both men inside one of the residences at the brothel."

[Michael Stogner]

Munks was caught up in a sting that was targeting the whorehouse he was at where drug dealers, prostitutes, and other criminals hang out. Does anybody think that Munks is himself engaged in organized crime activities?

Wilburt, give us some examples of what might equal organized crime.

[Michael Stogner]

I sent it yesterday.

http://www.redwoodcitydailynews.com/article/2007-5-15-05-15-07-smc-munks-recall

[Roscoe_Beedle]

This is great. A case study for the psyhcological aspects of a lynch mob.

Now we have one guy saying Munks should be imprisoned for "eternity" with Ayres. And dragging his family, wife and son, against their own husband and father? What kind of stupidity is this?

And another alledges "organized crime".

It is very plain to see this whole issue will go nowhere with people like this behind it. Life in prison for visiting a prostitute? Destroy his family as a just punishment?

Go ahead approach his son. You'll get a swift kick to the nuts and deservedly so.

Get a grip. I completely withdraw my original thoughts on Munks future employment based on this totally outrageous cadre of hate filled posters who have blown this thing completely out of proportion.

[wilburt]

This is great. A case study for the psyhcological aspects of a lynch mob.

Now we have one guy saying Munks should be imprisoned for "eternity" with Ayres. And dragging his family, wife and son, against their own husband and father? What kind of stupidity is this?

And another alledges "organized crime".

It is very plain to see this whole issue will go nowhere with people like this behind it. Life in prison for visiting a prostitute? Destroy his family as a just punishment?

Go ahead approach his son. You'll get a swift kick to the nuts and deservedly so.

Get a grip. I completely withdraw my original thoughts on Munks future employment based on this totally outrageous cadre of hate filled posters who have blown this thing completely out of proportion.

Roscoe, do you read things before you respond to them? Were you one of those people who flunked reading comprehension when you were in school? Nobody has alleged that Munks has engaged in "organized crime". However, the question has been asked in a previous post, "Anybody think that Sheriff Munks is involved in organized crime activites?". A question is not an allegation.

Here's the body of the question that I posted earlier:

"Munks was caught up in a sting that was targeting the whorehouse he was at where drug dealers, prostitutes, and other criminals hang out. Does anybody think that Munks is himself engaged in organized crime activities?"

See the question mark at the end of the second sentence?

[Roscoe_Beedle]

A question can indeed be used to cite allegation or a point of view. Imagine this question:

Are (insert ethnic group) unable to grasp the complexities of higher education?

The above statement posed as a question would be judged to be racist, argumentative, and blantantly false. Yet it has a question mark after it. That question mark does not absolve the person asking the question from making an outrageous allegation.

Your question would be judged both illogical given the first part (those arrested ) and at best argumentative in a fashion to disparage the subject (Munks).

If you don't believe this, go to a courtroom and see how a Judge will not allow certain questions posed certain ways. You can lead a witness, you can be argumentative, and you can generally make allegations by posing questions certain ways. The Judge's job is to strike these questions from the record completely.

If you have any belief, or harbor any questions given the facts of this incident that Munks may have connections to organize crime than it is you with the 2nd grade education. I bank at a large Bank where drug dealers, organize crime figures, prostitutes, and Priests do buisness. Does this tie me to organized crime?

[wilburt]

A question can indeed be used to cite allegation or a point of view. Imagine this question:

Are (insert ethnic group) unable to grasp the complexities of higher education?

The above statement posed as a question would be judged to be racist, argumentative, and blantantly false. Yet it has a question mark after it. That question mark does not absolve the person asking the question from making an outrageous allegation.

Your question would be judged both illogical given the first part (those arrested ) and at best argumentative in a fashion to disparage the subject (Munks).

If you don't believe this, go to a courtroom and see how a Judge will not allow certain questions posed certain ways. You can lead a witness, you can be argumentative, and you can generally make allegations by posing questions certain ways. The Judge's job is to strike these questions from the record completely.

If you have any belief, or harbor any questions given the facts of this incident that Munks may have connections to organize crime than it is you with the 2nd grade education. I bank at a large Bank where drug dealers, organize crime figures, prostitutes, and Priests do buisness. Does this tie me to organized crime?

Dear Roscoe, you really need to get back to school and learn the finer points of English and grammar. You sound like some dolt who just got done taking a business law class at a JC and thinks they know everything about the law. Based upon your statements, it is quite clear that you are not too well educated.

Nobody, who has taken basic English, would misinterpret a question for a demonstrative statement. If a person is a public official, like Munks, they are subject to questions. The difference between a question and an allegation is that a question is an inquisitive statement and an allegation is a demonstrative statement.

As far as the "rules of evidence" used in a California or Federal Courtroom, the fact is that we are not in a courtroom here. So, your statement about courtroom rules is, since you have such a thirst for jurisprudence, Non Sequitur. We are in the court of public opinion where the rules are different, and we are talking about an elected public official who has brought himself under scrutiny through his questionable activities.

Your statement:

"If you have any belief, or harbor any questions given the facts of this incident that Munks may have connections to organize crime than it is you with the 2nd grade education."

doesn't make any sense. Does it? What are you trying to say here? How does having a second grade education have anything to do with a question about Munks being or not being involved in organized crime activities? Maybe you need to rephrase this question?

Your statement:

"I bank at a large Bank where drug dealers, organize crime figures, prostitutes, and Priests do buisness. Does this tie me to organized crime?"

doesn't make sense. Does it? Munks wasn't banking at his bank during business hours. He was visiting an illegal house of prostitution that was under surveillance by a multi-jurisdictional law enforcement task force and got caught up in their sting operation. I don't know if the folks at the bank you do business with would appreciate being compared to an illegal whorehouse. Do you?

[Roscoe_Beedle]

I see you are backtracking here, and that is good. Your comment that Munks has brought himself "under public scrutiny" is the proper point in all of this. Not organized crime, not being given a life sentence and certainly not making his family a target of this petition.

I am curious though. Your question on his possible ties to organized crime. Tell me again why this question would be a pertinent one and not simply an inflamatory one. I take it as purely inflamatory with no basis in fact. Now, wilburt, that does not mean I have no education. Just asking...

As far as my own education, I am the first to admit I was not a gifted student. But I could outwork others. So I forced my way to a degree from the University of Chicago and then came out here to California for a graduate degree from UC. Spent many years working in the State Department doing Intelligence work. Much of it in foreign countries working through diplomatic missions. At my core I am always a 9th Ward kid, the roughest section at that time in Chicago. I really have seen it all.

[wilburt]

I see you are backtracking here, and that is good. Your comment that Munks has brought himself "under public scrutiny" is the proper point in all of this. Not organized crime, not being given a life sentence and certainly not making his family a target of this petition.

I am curious though. Your question on his possible ties to organized crime. Tell me again why this question would be a pertinent one and not simply an inflamatory one. I take it as purely inflamatory with no basis in fact. Now, wilburt, that does not mean I have no education. Just asking...

As far as my own education, I am the first to admit I was not a gifted student. But I could outwork others. So I forced my way to a degree from the University of Chicago and then came out here to California for a graduate degree from UC. Spent many years working in the State Department doing Intelligence work. Much of it in foreign countries working through diplomatic missions. At my core I am always a 9th Ward kid, the roughest section at that time in Chicago. I really have seen it all.

Your alleged credentials, work for the State Department, and a buck will get you a cup of coffee at most restaurants.

However, because you are a former State Department intelligence operative, you should know better than taking statements people make on a public message board and ascribing them to one side of the argument or the other.

Because you are such a well educated former intelligence operative, I assume you are familiar with the concept of a "double agent". For instance, a person, such as yourself, who starts out supporting a recall and then suddenly changes their position because he says he doesn't like what is being said by unidentified people who claim to be in support of the recall. This dynamic you are setting up, in an attempt to take the heat off your pal Munks, is transparent. This is all about Sheriff Munks being caught up in a multijurisdictional law enforcement sting on a whorehouse he happened to be at when the sting took place.

Your attempts to take the focus off of Munks and make him a sympathetic character are as lame as you appear to be.

[Michael Stogner]

Label/Receipt Number: 7007 0220 0002 9139 7135
Status: Delivered

Your item was delivered at 11:57 AM on May 15, 2007 in REDWOOD CITY, CA 94063.

[Michael Stogner]

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Your item was delivered at 11:57 AM on May 15, 2007 in REDWOOD CITY, CA 94063.

Questions from Voters
for
San Mateo County Sheriff Greg Munks


1) "I had no earthly idea I was at a suspected brothel."

Would you be willing to make that same statement under oath?

2) "I believed I was going to a legitimate business."

Would you be willing to make that same statement under oath?

3) After arriving by Limo at the private residence, and getting out of the limo did you still believe you were at a legitimate business?

4) After entering the front door of the private residence did you still believe you were at a legitimate business?

5) Did Carlos Bolanos enter the private residence with you?

6) How many minutes were you in the private residence before being detained?

7) What is the actual address of the private residence you were detained at.

8) Were you at any time handcuffed at the private residence?

9) Did Carlos Bolanos enter the private residence at any time before being detained?

10) Where was Carlos Bolanos when he was detained?

11) Was Carlos Bolanos at any time handcuffed?

12) SMCSO Lt. Lisa Williams "This years trip was not paid for by the County.
Was that a truthful statement?

13) Did county funds pay for the Limousine?

14) Did county funds pay for $1700 entrance fee?

15) Did county funds pay for hotels?

16) Did county funds pay for Bar tabs?




17) Did County Sheriff's Office spokesperson Lt. Lisa Williams lie or was she lied to? regarding the expenses charged to the County.

18) Has there been any quick reimbursements back to the county since the story broke?

19) How many massage tables did you see?

20) How many minutes after walking through the front door of the private residence
was it before you realized it was not a legal business?

21) After coming to that conclusion, did you contact any law enforcement, before you were detained?

22) Did you in fact even come to that conclusion before you were detained? Or was it the handcuffs and the FBI that brought that fact to your attention?

23) What time did you arrive at the private residence?

24) What did Carlos Bolanos say to you as you arrived at the house?

25) Why would Carlos Bolanos wait in a Limousine for you to get a 1 hour massage?

26) Why wouldn't he have stayed at the Hotel?

27) What is the name of the Limo driver?

28) Who did you first contact after being detained?

29) Have you communicated with any member of the Service League of San Mateo County about this?

30) Did anyone from the DA's office or the Probation Department speak to you about with-holding arrest information on Carlos Ordonez?

31) Why did you with-hold arrest information of a Probation Department Employee by the name of Carlos Ordonez?

32) After the press found out about the arrest of Carlos Ordonez 13 days later. Lt Lisa Willams made a statement that the booking photo was not being released because of a pending investigation.

Did SMCSO Lt. Lisa Williams make a false statement?

[mrs.frankb]

Lets not forget the women and children who were found working as "sex slaves" in the filthy establishment. The same women and children who had been ruthlessly used as "bait" for the joint FBI, IRS, LVPD "sting" operation.
Lets not forget that our Sheriff went into that establishment and stayed
inside until the raid. If our Sheriff wants to grovel in the dirt - let him but
for God's sake lets show some compassion for the victims here. Please
contact Congressman Lantos office through his Aide, Adam by emailing:
adam.stone@mail.house.gov - Send a message that we don't want our
tax dollars exploiting victims. Ask our Congressman to work to keep these "sex slaves" catagorized as victims so they can stay in the US.

Then, we need to answer the question if any woman or child in custody of our Sheriff is safe. I'd say she is not. What do you think?

[Roscoe_Beedle]

I never supported Munks. In fact, my earliest posts on the matter was in favor of his removal. What I object to is the over-the-top arguments being made by some. Based on this mis - representation I would not be in favor of signing any petition. Of course this makes me a 2nd grader.

And you have basically a Hollywood view of the intelligence field. Double agents, sounds intriguing. Exciting. But false. And your idea of how a "agent" operates is non-existent.

Well, look, I think we can agree on Munk's ultimate fate. Spending time researching his ties to organized crime will lead to nothing, he's too visible, too politically connected. An informant is someone in the office with extremely low profile.

Munks should go. And I think this will happen through a more natural process.

[Michael Stogner]

Lets not forget the women and children who were found working as "sex slaves" in the filthy establishment. The same women and children who had been ruthlessly used as "bait" for the joint FBI, IRS, LVPD "sting" operation.
Lets not forget that our Sheriff went into that establishment and stayed
inside until the raid. If our Sheriff wants to grovel in the dirt - let him but
for God's sake lets show some compassion for the victims here. Please
contact Congressman Lantos office through his Aide, Adam by emailing:
adam.stone@mail.house.gov - Send a message that we don't want our
tax dollars exploiting victims. Ask our Congressman to work to keep these "sex slaves" catagorized as victims so they can stay in the US.

Then, we need to answer the question if any woman or child in custody of our Sheriff is safe. I'd say she is not. What do you think?

I agree, they are not safe under this leadership.

Lets not forget the Probation Department ...the same department that sent an estimated 25 members of the Greg Munks TEAM to VEGAS....

The same Probation Department the Sheriff protected the arrest of Carlos Ordonez.....

[Michael Stogner]

Lets not forget the women and children who were found working as "sex slaves" in the filthy establishment. The same women and children who had been ruthlessly used as "bait" for the joint FBI, IRS, LVPD "sting" operation.
Lets not forget that our Sheriff went into that establishment and stayed
inside until the raid. If our Sheriff wants to grovel in the dirt - let him but
for God's sake lets show some compassion for the victims here. Please
contact Congressman Lantos office through his Aide, Adam by emailing:
adam.stone@mail.house.gov - Send a message that we don't want our
tax dollars exploiting victims. Ask our Congressman to work to keep these "sex slaves" catagorized as victims so they can stay in the US.

Then, we need to answer the question if any woman or child in custody of our Sheriff is safe. I'd say she is not. What do you think?

Mrs F.

I sent my e-mail today.

[wilburt]

I never supported Munks. In fact, my earliest posts on the matter was in favor of his removal. What I object to is the over-the-top arguments being made by some. Based on this mis - representation I would not be in favor of signing any petition. Of course this makes me a 2nd grader.

And you have basically a Hollywood view of the intelligence field. Double agents, sounds intriguing. Exciting. But false. And your idea of how a "agent" operates is non-existent.

Well, look, I think we can agree on Munk's ultimate fate. Spending time researching his ties to organized crime will lead to nothing, he's too visible, too politically connected. An informant is someone in the office with extremely low profile.

Munks should go. And I think this will happen through a more natural process.


Roscoe, we agree that Munks should resign or be recalled.

You wrote:

"And you have basically a Hollywood view of the intelligence field.
Double agents, sounds intriguing. Exciting. But false."

My response:

"double agents" do exist in real life.

Here's a short list that includes, but is not limited to, the following "double agents" who were, and in some cases, are real people:

Aldrich Ames (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aldrich_Ames), worked for CIA and sold information to KGB as a mole
Robert Hanssen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Hanssen), worked for FBI and sold information to Russia as a mole
April Fool (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_Fool_%28double_agent%29)
George Blake (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Blake)
Guy Burgess (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Burgess), worked for MI5 and gave information to the KGB and later defected
Mathilde Carré (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathilde_Carr%C3%A9)
Dusko Popov (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tricycle_%28World_War_II%29) (Tricycle)
John Anthony Walker (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walker_spy_ring)
Matei Pavel Haiducu
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matei_Pavel_Haiducu)Mata Hari (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mata_Hari)

The people in the above list are real people; not fictitious Hollywood characters (although movies have been made about some of these "double agents"). Also, Ian Fleming (writer of the 007 novels) worked in British naval intelligence during World War II. The FBI, DIA, NSA, CIA, and other alphabet soup agencies in the intelligence gathering business spend a lot of time and money trying to root out moles (i.e., "double agents").

You didn't do any counter-intelligence work when you were working as an intelligence operative for the State Department?

[Roscoe_Beedle]

You didn't mention these people in your earlier post. You seem to indicate that I was acting as a sort of double agent. You are streaching to make this point. Yes, some of these could be called double agents or rogues. Be careful though, rogues are used to expose other intelligence operations.

Let me tell you this, these high profile cases do nothing to tell you what is the reality out there. Anymore than a high profile murder case tells you about the general condition of crime in a State.

Good primer: Anything Tom Clancy. Sherry Sontag (Blind Man's Bluff), she gets close. Read them.

My exposure was fairly low key. Deciphering information and re-writing for mission chiefs. Read many a newspaper. Fairly low grade stuff. But you never know. Or can't.

[Roscoe_Beedle]

By the way, at least one on that list of yours, near the top end, the whole story is not 'out'. The damaged may be one of opinion.

[wilburt]

You didn't mention these people in your earlier post. You seem to indicate that I was acting as a sort of double agent. You are streaching to make this point. Yes, some of these could be called double agents or rogues. Be careful though, rogues are used to expose other intelligence operations.

Let me tell you this, these high profile cases do nothing to tell you what is the reality out there. Anymore than a high profile murder case tells you about the general condition of crime in a State.

Good primer: Anything Tom Clancy. Sherry Sontag (Blind Man's Bluff), she gets close. Read them.

My exposure was fairly low key. Deciphering information and re-writing for mission chiefs. Read many a newspaper. Fairly low grade stuff. But you never know. Or can't.

Since you worked for the State Department, there was a program on the Discovery Channel a few weeks ago called, "Critical Threat", that showed two U.S. State Department Diplomatic Security Services agents who were helping defend the US Embassy in Liberia during the uprisings there. These guys were two of the bravest, most resourceful people I have ever seen.

[Michael Stogner]

May 14, 2007



Michael G. Stogner
1655 San Carlos Ave #8
San Carlos, California 94070
650-921-7001

Re: Resignation

San Mateo County Sheriff Greg Munks
UnderSheriff Carlos Bolanos
400 County Center
Redwood City, California 94063


Dear Sirs,

I am formally requesting both of you to resign or retire from your positions as
San Mateo County Sheriff Officers today. In the event you both should choose to remain, which you have every right to, I will file a Notice of Intent to Recall San Mateo County Sheriff Greg Munks. I am enclosing a 2 page document consisting of
32 questions for you to answer. These are questions some voters have asked me to present to you for your honest answers. You shall have 30 days to respond and mail back to me.

I wish the very best to both of you and your families.

I can not support you two as my top law enforcement officials as of April 21, 2007.






Sincerely,



Michael G. Stogner

[Michael Stogner]

http://cbs5.com/topstories/local_story_137010229.html

[Michael Stogner]

http://www.insidebayarea.com/search//ci_5936301

[Michael Stogner]

The Committe To Recall San Mateo County Sheriff Greg Munks.

First meeting was last night.

YouTube..... Public Announcement Spots....starting in 2 weeks

We will use the CBS5 report by Robert Lyles. It will be translated into every language spoken in San Mateo County. Not by one person but 4 people from each language. Two young adults male and female and to older adults male and female.

It will have both of our Sheriff's comments at the begining and again at the end.

All translaters are welcome to help.

contact me at michaelgstogner@yahoo.com

[Michael Stogner]

Talking about our Sheriff Greg Munks.

Adam Alberti, vice president of public relations firm Singer Associates.

“I think as political scandal goes, this one is pretty weak,”

The best thing is to wait for the frenzy to die down and quietly, but solidly go about building up his reputation,”

I'm not sure about the frenzy.......But I am sure about this

The recall process starts on June 15, 2007 if Sheriff Greg Munks and Carlos Bolanos have not resigned.

[mrs.frankb]

Did you note the large settlement we are paying out because of "inappropriate strip searches" by our Sheriff's Dept. What next?

We must ask ourselves one obvious question that has NOT been answered: If a trained, experienced law enforcement leader entered an establishment staffed by victims described by some as "sex slaves...some underage..." wouldn't it be logical to assume that it may well have been the promise of young prostitutes that led him to seek out that illegal establishment in the first place?

The dirty little secrets (strip searches, children for sex) are all coming out now. Like the settlement of lawsuit that resulted from the DA's unethical sharing of personal information a few years back, we will be paying heavily for this - and not just with money.

[Michael Stogner]

Did you note the large settlement we are paying out because of "inappropriate strip searches" by our Sheriff's Dept. What next?

We must ask ourselves one obvious question that has NOT been answered: If a trained, experienced law enforcement leader entered an establishment staffed by victims described by some as "sex slaves...some underage..." wouldn't it be logical to assume that it may well have been the promise of young prostitutes that led him to seek out that illegal establishment in the first place?

The dirty little secrets (strip searches, children for sex) are all coming out now. Like the settlement of lawsuit that resulted from the DA's unethical sharing of personal information a few years back, we will be paying heavily for this - and not just with money.

http://www.redwoodcitydailynews.com/...strip-searches
$1,900,000.00

$94,000 paid by tax payers for James P. Fox and Morley Pitt.
Many people thought it was illegal conduct by this duo to distribute confidential information in a San Carlos Police Report, to an ex-husband who just happened to be a Probation Department Employee......

What we learned from this case is Police Reports are Public Information, anybody can pass them around anywhere they want. according to Thomas Casey III County Counsel for San Mateo County.

[mrs.frankb]

The mess our Coroner has made out of that office and the associated costs and exposure to potential lawsuits arising from the joke this office has become...We have a County Manager soliciting prostutes on a public street; a Sheriff who frequents illegal "massage" parlors, a DA who has declined to prosecute or shown favoritism to "friends" (the Eddie D rape, San Carlos incident and others.) To make matters worse, we may have Jerry Hill in the State Assembly.

[Michael Stogner]

On May 15, 2007 Sheriff Greg Munks received letter requesting both to resign.
List of 32 questions to answer.

Simply put would he be willing to make the same statement under oath.

"I thought I was going to a legitimate business."

To date Sheriff Greg Munks is not willing to make that statement.



June 15, 2007 at 12:00 PM I will file the papers for recall.

Lets vote

[Michael Stogner]

http://www.smdailyjournal.com/article_preview.php?type=opinions&id=75542

[Michael Stogner]

This trick has worked before on San Mateo County.

http://www.smdailyjournal.com/article_preview.php?id=44921

[Roscoe_Beedle]

I decided to support a recall effort. I have looked into this and have satisfied myself that two procedures or laws were broken:

Mis-use of public funds
Solicitation for prostitution

I would also ask that those funds expended for this trip by the many be reimbursed to the County.

And Michael, forget that quack you quote from on the "constitutionality" of the press to have answers. That's a crock. If I did something wrong the last people I would talk to is the media. That guy who wrote that article makes a weak point. Our Constitution did not subject any of us to the intrusion of the press. And do you think for a moment that elected officials caught up in some situation tell the press everything they know? Come on.

[Michael Stogner]

I decided to support a recall effort. I have looked into this and have satisfied myself that two procedures or laws were broken:

Mis-use of public funds
Solicitation for prostitution

I would also ask that those funds expended for this trip by the many be reimbursed to the County.

And Michael, forget that quack you quote from on the "constitutionality" of the press to have answers. That's a crock. If I did something wrong the last people I would talk to is the media. That guy who wrote that article makes a weak point. Our Constitution did not subject any of us to the intrusion of the press. And do you think for a moment that elected officials caught up in some situation tell the press everything they know? Come on.

I understand what you are saying......

Roscoe, Welcome aboard...

The recall is the last thing I want to do. I don't think we have any other option. We have our two highest ranking Law Enforcement Officers who just happen to be married and have very devoted wives and children that depend on them just like we depend on them for honesty. These two experts in Law Enforcement and communications told a Limo driver something other than they wanted a masssage, to end up at that private residence. They were both in the residence,,,not like Greg Munks told us Carlos Bolanos was waiting in the Limo. The County did spend $15,000.00 and counting...not like Greg Munks told us no county funds were spent.

I am very dissapointed they have not resigned, but I am not suprised.

When you consider what type of man would go to an Illegal Brothel to have sex with underaged girls/sex slaves. Also what does this say for their Team Building skills when the two leaders of the team leave the entire team at the hotel at 9:15 PM on a Saturday night...

Everything Sheriff Greg Munks and Carlos Bolanos have told us about that trip is a LIE. and now they are praying that we won't get 40,000 voters to sign...they might be right...but I am going to do my best to find out.

[Michael Stogner]

http://www.smdailyjournal.com/article_preview.php?id=75462&eddate=05/25/2007

[Roscoe_Beedle]

Good Luck.

[Michael Stogner]

I decided to support a recall effort. I have looked into this and have satisfied myself that two procedures or laws were broken:

Mis-use of public funds
Solicitation for prostitution

I would also ask that those funds expended for this trip by the many be reimbursed to the County.

And Michael, forget that quack you quote from on the "constitutionality" of the press to have answers. That's a crock. If I did something wrong the last people I would talk to is the media. That guy who wrote that article makes a weak point. Our Constitution did not subject any of us to the intrusion of the press. And do you think for a moment that elected officials caught up in some situation tell the press everything they know? Come on.

Roscoe,
What have you seen that gives you...The Solicitation for prostitution?

What is required to have that crime exist?

[Roscoe_Beedle]

As far as an actionable item I use that phrase. I suppose no law is broken by "visiting" a house of prostitution. As in looking at the wallpaper.

No question in my mind that the intent was there. Although no actual crime was committed the intent is there and this tells me he has to go.

[Michael Stogner]

In todays SMDJ

Despite the recent hoopla over his Las Vegas trip, San Mateo County Sheriff Greg Munks still has some fans on the Peninsula. On Friday, the Katz family will present a check for $9,475 to the Sheriff’s Office at the county government building. The money will cover the entire amount listed for the trip including travel, accommodation and other expenses for Munks and Undersheriff Carlos Bolanos.

Munks and Bolanos were under fire after the trip for an annual run after being questioned at a home looking to get massages as it was busted for being a brothel.

That is a cute story......

April 21, 2007 @ 9:30 PM Sheriff Greg Munks and Carlos Bolanos were both hancuffed and detained inside an illegal brothel residential house, which had underaged girls who were here illegally and held against their will to perform sex with men like our Sheriffs.

They were not looking to get massages, they were looking to have sex with underaged girls....Thats why they went there. and that is most likely what happened...The arrest records are sealed at this time.

For some reason Katz family is paying $9,475.00 for expenses that the Sheriff lied about...."No County Funds Were Spent."

[Michael Stogner]

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=27149

[Michael Stogner]

http://fighttostopviolence.blogspot.com/2007/05/human-trafficking.html

[Michael Stogner]

On May 15, 2007 Sheriff Greg Munks received letter requesting both to resign.
List of 32 questions to answer.

Simply put would he be willing to make the same statement under oath.

"I thought I was going to a legitimate business."

To date Sheriff Greg Munks is not willing to make that statement.



June 15, 2007 at 12:00 PM I will file the papers for recall.

Lets vote

Sorry for the Delay... June 18, 2007 Monday....New filing date.

[Michael Stogner]

http://www.co.sanmateo.ca.us/vgn/images/portal/cit_609/57555894org_chart_so.pdf

[Michael Stogner]

http://cbs5.com/video/?id=23406@kpix.dayport.com

The previous link has dissapeared.

San Mateo County Supervisor Jerry Hill at 4:43 to 5:10 on video

[efto1]

http://cbs5.com/video/?id=23406@kpix.dayport.com

The previous link has dissapeared.

San Mateo County Supervisor Jerry Hill at 4:43 to 5:10 on video


Orange County's sheriff appears in court, because he has gotten himself arrested by the federalis, yet that still is not enough to get him to step down!
Even when the cop that was convicted of murdering a prostitute found chained to the back of his car, as he was caught dragging her at Canada College. Nevertheless, when his fingerprints popped up on an oil can filled with the remains of an interracial couple hacked to bits, that also was not enough to convict the former cop! You see, they needed for a black female pimp from East Palo Alto who once lived at the corner of Middlefield and Sandcrab Park at Chestnut Street where her brother sold dope out her appartment, but during her arrest, she told everyone how guilty the former drugged out cop was when he took a golfing trophy, and beat out the brains of a prostitute who dared to laugh has his proposal of him wishing to pimp her.
The District Attorney knew that his chance of getting away with murder were great, so they planted someone whom told what they already knew! I wonder of Monks, Incoropated have that kind of pressure on them as well?

[Michael Stogner]

Orange County's sheriff appears in court, because he has gotten himself arrested by the federalis, yet that still is not enough to get him to step down!
Even when the cop that was convicted of murdering a prostitute found chained to the back of his car, as he was caught dragging her at Canada College. Nevertheless, when his fingerprints popped up on an oil can filled with the remains of an interracial couple hacked to bits, that also was not enough to convict the former cop! You see, they needed for a black female pimp from East Palo Alto who once lived at the corner of Middlefield and Sandcrab Park at Chestnut Street where her brother sold dope out her appartment, but during her arrest, she told everyone how guilty the former drugged out cop was when he took a golfing trophy, and beat out the brains of a prostitute who dared to laugh has his proposal of him wishing to pimp her.
The District Attorney knew that his chance of getting away with murder were great, so they planted someone whom told what they already knew! I wonder of Monks, Incoropated have that kind of pressure on them as well?

Your right about OCS Sheriff Mike Carona.....
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-carona30oct30,0,327619.story?coll=la-home-center

Here in San Mateo County we have the leaders Board of Supervisors Jerry Hill supporting the top two Sheriff's as customers of Human Trafficking and sex slavery as demonstrated on 4/21/07 in Las Vegas Operation Dollhouse.

We don't hear to much about Human Trafficking in San Mateo County.

No wonder Our Law Enforcement Leaders are the customers.

[Michael Stogner]

http://cbs5.com/video/?id=23406@kpix.dayport.com

Robert Lyles video at 2:53 is the house, Munks and Bolanos were detained in.

If you Google Earth.....3474 Eldon Street, Las Vegas Nevada, 89102

You will have the house that San Mateo County Sheriff Greg Munks claims he had no EARTHLY IDEA was an illegal business.

[Michael Stogner]

From todays Reporter Notebook. 12/6/07

A bill sponsored by Rep. Tom Lantos, D-San Mateo, that cracks down on human trafficking was reauthorized by the United States House of Representatives Tuesday night by a 405-2 vote. At least two citizens weren’t happy with the bill. Maxine Doogan and Robyn Few, members of Erotic Service Providers Union and Sex Workers Outreach Project, protested in front of Lantos’ District Office Tuesday. The women claim the bill punishes people willingly in the sex industry and limits their protection by further criminalizing what they do.

I know two other citizens who are not happy about this bill.

San Mateo County Sheriff Greg Munks and Under-Sheriff Carlos Bolanos.

Operation Dollhouse 4/21/07
3474 Eldon Street Las vegas, NV

[Michael Stogner]

The next time Sheriff Greg Munks wants to take County vehicles go to a Human Trafficking Underage Sex Slave business he will have to get permission from San Mateo Couny Manager John Maltbie.

http://www.insidebayarea.com/sanmateocountytimes/localnews/ci_7578760

[mrs.frankb]

I doubt Munks will have problems getting an o.k, for a vacation on us.
He'll take his own car, or fly down and charge something else on the credit card. Or, maybe he'll find some underage sex slaves right here in the county. Look what this man has gotten away with up to now and he still is our top ranking law enforcement officer. What a slap in the face to the real
officers.

[Michael Stogner]

I doubt Munks will have problems getting an o.k, for a vacation on us.
He'll take his own car, or fly down and charge something else on the credit card. Or, maybe he'll find some underage sex slaves right here in the county. Look what this man has gotten away with up to now and he still is our top ranking law enforcement officer. What a slap in the face to the real
officers.

Mrs. Frankb, I have no doubt he is doing this same behavior right here in our County.....I will do my part next month to remove him as our Sheriff.

Thank You, to all the honest and hard working Sheriff Deputies of San Mateo County, I had a conversation with Edith Delgado the other day, I was very pleased with what she said about ALL the Deputies she was in contact with for the 11 months she was in our Jail, being Transported, and in Court. She said not one ever treated her in a negative way. Every Deputy was polite and made sure she was treated with well.

[Michael Stogner]

http://www.almanacnews.com/news/show_story.php?id=1447

[mrs.frankb]

They got off cheap, didn't they?

[Michael Stogner]

http://www.smdailyjournal.com/article_preview.php?id=85410

[Michael Stogner]

Acting Assistant Attorney General for the Civil Rights Division Bradley J. Schlozman said, "Human trafficking is a repugnant and morally reprehensible crime, which the Department of Justice is deeply committed to eradicating. That this kind of conduct occurs in the 21st Century -- in the United States no less -- is simply unconscionable."

I agree...Tell that to San Mateos' Sheriff and Undersheriff

AKA as CUSTOMERS of Operation Dollhouse 4/21/07 9:30 PM Las Vegas. NV

[Michael Stogner]

http://www.sanmateodailynews.com/article/2008-4-18-silent-munks

Sheriff Greg Munks is no Spitzer. To bad for San Mateo County

The board of supervisors can not investigate this nor can Fox/Wagstaffe team.

Google Service League of San Mateo County.....
Look at Board of Advisors/Directors

[Michael Stogner]

http://www.theburlingamedailynews.com/article/2008-4-19-smc-munks-folo

This story has been unfolding in other newspapers......

[Michael Stogner]

Jerry Hill a man who just happened to be in Las Vegas the same weekend that (his at the time social friend) San Mateo County Sheriff Greg Munks was detained in what was called Operation Dollhouse April 21, 2007. Human Trafficked Underaged Sex Slaves

Jerry is returning all donations from Greg and Brenda Munks. approx. $4800

He did not mention if he was returning all money raised at Munks's Fundraiser at his personal residence in Portola Valley.

"I have a professional relationship with the sheriff and we don't socialize."

This is a change.

It used to be " We are social friends."

[mrs.frankb]

Jerry Hill, the Gumby of San Mateo County politics.

[Michael Stogner]

Lt. Marc Alcantara has said he believes the general orders for the sheriff's office leave the sheriff accountable to the supervisors and the county manager.

Of Course it does.

Thank You Lt. Marc Alcantara

The only thing missing in San Mateo County is Leadership who cares about laws. Our current group doesn't.

Not one of them has demanded answers or resignation.

Worse yet they send e-mails offering support.

[Michael Stogner]

John L. Maltbie, informed the Board of Supervisors he plans to retire on Dec. 30.

[Michael Stogner]

Norm asked a great question.

http://www.theburlingamedailynews.com/article/2008-4-24-04-24-08-op-ed-heise

[mrs.frankb]

We all know what Munks meant by that statement but, he miscalculated.
People may be apt to care less what someone does on their own time, with their own money and with a consenting adult - but, that was not the case here. What appears to have happened here is that a trusted elected official was caught with his pants down consorting with children who were being held in slavery and using tax payers money to do it.

[Michael Stogner]

http://jerryhillblog.com/?p=7

[voiceinyourhead]

Or beef...oh right, there isn't one.

Fake!!!

[mrs.frankb]

Well, I guess Jerry Hill taught me a thing or two with his blogged explanation of his support of Munks.

As usually, Hill attempts to squirm away from his actions but he has informed us in his blog that "no crime was committed." Las Vegas PD didn't charge
our Keystone Kop but to anyone who cares for kids the worse kind of crime was committed. For anyone who puts a value on humanity, or has any shred of respect for females - a terrible crime was committed.

How dare they!

[Michael Stogner]

Ethics committee proposal.

http://www.smdailyjournal.com/article_preview.php?id=95112

"If approved, the board can appoint a citizen’s review panel of individuals that are either retired judges, former county or city administrators, former grand juror foreperson, or former county counsels, city attorneys or district attorneys. Selection would be random and Brown Act requirements enforced."

We might want this citizen's review board to have more citizen's not related to San Mateo County payroll on it. Also some people who might think Human Trafficking of Underaged Sex Slaves is a bad thing.

Currently San Mateo County has its top two Sheriff's (Munks and Bolanos) who are CUSTOMERS of Underaged Human Trafficked Sex Slaves.
We have the two highest ranking
District Attorney Officers Fox and Wagstaffe who support this behavior and blame the media for reporting about it.

e-mail sent 4/25/07 10:47AM
Greg and Carlos
"I just want to let you both know how sorry I am for what you are going through with the media frenzy. It isn't easy getting beaten up in the media, but hopefully it will all be yesterday's news by tomorrow, If there is anything I can do to help or provide support, please know I am more than willing."
Hang in there.
Jim

e-mail sent 4/25/07 10:20 AM
Greg and Carlos
Just a quick word of support from me as you go through a difficult time. To those who matter, your decades of outstanding work in law enforcement are all that count and your integrity is not the slightest marked by the modern media's efforts to make a story out of a non-story. Hard as it is to think it now, remember it will be yesterday's news and irrelevant by tomorrow.

My positive thoughts are out there for both of you.
Steve

[katherine m]

If they are, then what did Steve Wagstaffe mean by "to those who matter" ? Is he implying that the opinions of the rest of us don't matter ?

Please tell me this is a joke !

[Michael Stogner]

The joke is on all of us in San Mateo County.

I received these e-mails from San Mateo County Counsel.

I first read them in an article by Shaun Bishop, I think it was titled LOCKDOWN

[katherine m]

like Steve Wagstaffe, who has a reputation for being political, to make a misstep and use words like "To those who matter " Huh ? He's been in office too long and needs to get out and meet his consituents. Those words make him sound imperious.

Didn't they teach Steve in law school that all of us matter ?

[mrs.frankb]

Wagstaff isn't yet an elected official. He won't actually be until Fox retires and Wagstaff is appointed to fill Fox's shoes or runs unopposed for the office.
How do I know he will run unopposed? I actually don't but thats how things
usually work. When the people wake up, they might think about taking their government back, don't you think?

[Michael Stogner]

Wagstaff isn't yet an elected official. He won't actually be until Fox retires and Wagstaff is appointed to fill Fox's shoes or runs unopposed for the office.
How do I know he will run unopposed? I actually don't but thats how things
usually work. When the people wake up, they might think about taking their government back, don't you think?

This might be the perfect case to have the brand new ethics committee that the Board of Supervisors will be recommending on July 22, 2008 9:00 AM, to look into these e-mails from our top two law enforcers. I think the citizens committee should have ordinary citizens on it, that would be refreshing.

[Michael Stogner]

Agenda Item 9

http://www.co.sanmateo.ca.us/bos.dir/BosAgendas/agendas2008/CurrentAgenda/text_currentagenda.htm

[Michael Stogner]

http://www.usdoj.gov/olp/pdf/ndaa.pdf

Because prostitution-related crimes are of a substantially local nature states and localities have historically and effectively prosecuted these types of crimes. The federalization of such crimes is of concern to local and state prosecutors who handle approximately 95%


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[Jack Kirkpatrick]

As Ricky Nelson sang, "It's Late."

The department has quieted down and unless Munks and Bolano flies above the radar or crashes with another folly, he is safe until the next election. Ricky's "Fool's Rush In" got Munks' attention along with the SMC Cathouse incident and that male deputy going "mano a mano" with a female deputy and threat of alleged salacious pictures.

There is still plenty of work to do on those unsolved murders and gangs and more could be done to enforce laws in hiring illegal immigrants and reporting possible illegal immigrants to ICE. His last big problem is finding a new jail location and nothing he does will make any city or county residents happy.

I'd advise Munks and Bolanos to avoid singing Ricky's "Hello, Mary Lou." It just might happen if the department doesn't take a cold shower. http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/r/ricky_nelson/hello_mary_lou.html

[Michael Stogner]

As Ricky Nelson sang, "It's Late."

The department has quieted down and unless Munks and Bolano flies above the radar or crashes with another folly, he is safe until the next election. Ricky's "Fool's Rush In" got Munks' attention along with the SMC Cathouse incident and that male deputy going "mano a mano" with a female deputy and threat of alleged salacious pictures.

There is still plenty of work to do on those unsolved murders and gangs and more could be done to enforce laws in hiring illegal immigrants and reporting possible illegal immigrants to ICE. His last big problem is finding a new jail location and nothing he does will make any city or county residents happy.

I'd advise Munks and Bolanos to avoid singing Ricky's "Hello, Mary Lou." It just might happen if the department doesn't take a cold shower. http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/r/ricky_nelson/hello_mary_lou.html

Jack,
"The department has quieted down and unless Munks and Bolano flies above the radar or crashes with another folly, he is safe until the next election."

Sheriff Greg Munks will run for Sheriff next election and why shouldn't he. He didn't have the courage to resign in April 2007 and not one of San Mateo County Leaders asked/demanded him to, as a matter of fact they all supported him including Ex Sheriff Don Horsley.

[St. Clair Baxter]

That's what people are saying these days. Does his non- support of Munks mean that Horsley is no longer someone "who matters" -- by the standards of Steve Wagstaffe?

[Michael Stogner]

That's what people are saying these days. Does his non- support of Munks mean that Horsley is no longer someone "who matters" -- by the standards of Steve Wagstaffe?

Don Horsley supported Greg Munks in April and May 2007. He has planned to run for Supervisor Seat District 3 when Rich Gordon leaves, 2010 this could explain the recent non-support if in fact there is any. Has he asked Sheriff Greg Munks to resign? I have.

[Michael Stogner]

http://www.mercurynews.com/sanmateocounty/ci_13311584?nclick_check=1

"Human trafficking has not surfaced as a problem in San Mateo County, according to Chief Deputy District Attorney Steve Wagstaffe, who said police have not yet brought any serious trafficking cases to him for prosecution."

That is comforting to know that San Mateo County is Special and doesn't have the same problems the rest of the United States and World does.

What we do have in San Mateo County is our Sheriff Greg Munks and Undersheriff Carlos Bolanos identified by the FBI, Las Vegas Metro Police as Customers of Underaged Human Trafficked Sex Slaves 4/21/2007 in a Sting called Operation Dollhouse. We also have James P. Fox and Steve Wagstaffe supporting their behavior and sending e-mails within minutes of each other to show their support and to be-little the media. "To those who matter."

What would James P. Fox and Steve Wagstaffe consider a serious H.T. case?

All Supervisors of San Mateo County including Jerry Hill who was in Las Vegas that same weekend support this behavior.


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