San Mateo County Sheriff Greg Munks questioned by Las Vegas Cops

[wilburt]

:eek:

Did you see the Channel 5 News last night?
http://cbs5.com/topstories/local_story_114010951.html

San Mateo County Sheriff Munks and his undersheriff Carlos Bolanos were being driven around Vegas in a limo and somehow found themselves swept up for questioning in a prostitution bust after allegedly visiting the alleged massage parlor. Bolanos said Munks was sore (LOL).........

First we have the San Mateo County Courts and other County agencies referring minors to an alleged pedophile psychiatrist for several years. Now we have the Sheriff and Undersheriff being questioned in a Las Vegas prostitution sting.

Wake up people, San Mateo County government needs to be cleaned up by the voters. Time to get some new Supervisors, a new DA, a new Sheriff, and new judges......

[Michael Stogner]

San Mateo Countys two highest law enforcement officers.

This is how are Law Leaders conduct themselves.

It is time San Mateo County voters clean house.

[Michael Stogner]

http://cbs5.com/topstories/local_story_114010951.html

You won't see this story/article in Sunset Magazine

These two gentlemen were/are in charge of the investigation that was just completed at Hillcrest Juvie Hall. They were investigating the sexual abuse of young girls in our care. They closed that investigation after finding one 17 year old girl had sex with Carlos Ordonez the San Mateo County Probation Department Employee at Hillcrest.

They refused to release his booking photo in a timely maner and never asked the public for help/information in the short investigation.

What happens in Vegas...doesn't stay in Vegas

[Kosher]

They're a bunch of traffic cops with nothing better to do. They should all be fired. Our streets are not safe when our own TAX SPONSORED government is sleeping with the enemy. It's not only time to clean house but it's time that these people are made accountable for their actions.

:mad:

San Mateo Countys two highest law enforcement officers.

This is how are Law Leaders conduct themselves.

It is time San Mateo County voters clean house.

[Les Bright]

Wake up people, San Mateo County government needs to be cleaned up by the voters. Time to get some new Supervisors, a new DA, a new Sheriff, and new judges......

AMEN, Michael! Based on what the Sheriff did, they've ALL got to go -- every last ONE of them, even the ones who AREN'T the Sheriff! ESPECIALLY THEM!!! I remember what you posted back in 2002 when Jayson Williams shot his CHAUFFEUR! You said "Wake up people, the NBA needs to be cleaned up by the Commissioner!" I AGREE! We need to fire all 344 NBA players, and replace them with 344 new people who WEREN'T DRAFTED and have never played NBA ball. The quality of play can only improve, because the 344 new players would NEVER commit such crimes -- only the 343 experienced players who weren't Jayson Williams would have, if we let them stay! Also, new players have got to be better at basketball than the 344 bozos who are in the NBA now, and you need look no further than Jayson Williams for PROOF!

Similarly, everyone in this County should resign and be replaced by someone else! People we've never met before have GOT to be better than the democratically elected people running this County now! 150 years of skyrocketing property values, low crime and uninterrupted prosperity are enough! I demand to be governed by new people I've never heard of -- preferably ones who were too cowardly to run against the currently elected officials when they ran unopposed last election! The fact that they didn't stand for election is proof enough for me that they're better than the ones who did. It's time for NEW BLOOD to run through our STREETS!

[Michael Stogner]

Les...Get ahold of yourself...calm down boy.. this is Wilburts post not mine.

Also is there any way you can copy your claims as to what you allege I have said in the past.(Jayson Williams) who is he. Please show me what you say I said.

Just for the record...I would have stated if I were the Sheriff caught in a whorehouse with my trusty undersheriff..."I am sorry I got caught." next question!!!

AMEN, Michael! Based on what the Sheriff did, they've ALL got to go -- every last ONE of them, even the ones who AREN'T the Sheriff! ESPECIALLY THEM!!! I remember what you posted back in 2002 when Jayson Williams shot his CHAUFFEUR! You said "Wake up people, the NBA needs to be cleaned up by the Commissioner!" I AGREE! We need to fire all 344 NBA players, and replace them with 344 new people who WEREN'T DRAFTED and have never played NBA ball. The quality of play can only improve, because the 344 new players would NEVER commit such crimes -- only the 343 experienced players who weren't Jayson Williams would have, if we let them stay! Also, new players have got to be better at basketball than the 344 bozos who are in the NBA now, and you need look no further than Jayson Williams for PROOF!

Similarly, everyone in this County should resign and be replaced by someone else! People we've never met before have GOT to be better than the democratically elected people running this County now! 150 years of skyrocketing property values, low crime and uninterrupted prosperity are enough! I demand to be governed by new people I've never heard of -- preferably ones who were too cowardly to run against the currently elected officials when they ran unopposed last election! The fact that they didn't stand for election is proof enough for me that they're better than the ones who did. It's time for NEW BLOOD to run through our STREETS!

[As If]

Les...Get ahold of yourself...calm down boy.. this is Wilburts post not mine.

Also is there any way you can copy your claims as to what you allege I have said in the past.(Jayson Williams) who is he. Please show me what you say I said.

Just for the record...I would have stated if I were the Sheriff caught in a whorehouse with my trusty undersheriff..."I am sorry I got caught." next question!!!


Ahh! thanks for the laugh after posting my last response this made my night...

[wilburt]

In my opinion, these two have violated the public's trust and should resign immediately. If they won't resign, then there should be an investigation by the State of California Department of Justice into their conduct to see exactly what happened here or if there is a pattern of conduct with these two that is not compatible with them holding a job in law enforcement.

The problem here is that a Sheriff and the number two guy at the Sheriff's Department are not supposed to be engaged in any activity that has the hint of impropriety. As sworn law enforcement officers they must meet the highest standards of integrity and moral conduct.

[Michael Stogner]

Wilburt,
I agree with you 100%
These two men are responsible for our womens jail.

They are responsible for the investigation of Carlos Ordonez the 23 year old
San Mateo County Probation Department Employee who was caught having sex with a 15 year old girl who was a ward of San Mateo County. They protected Carlos Ordonez(San Mateo County Employee) not our children.
They kept his arrest secret for 13 days and even then no booking photo released at that time.

Their loyalties are to a different group of people, not San Mateo County residents.

As sworn law enforcement officers they must meet the highest standards of integrity and moral conduct.

We San Mateo County don't have that with these two men.


In my opinion, these two have violated the public's trust and should resign immediately. If they won't resign, then there should be an investigation by the State of California Department of Justice into their conduct to see exactly what happened here or if there is a pattern of conduct with these two that is not compatible with them holding a job in law enforcement.

The problem here is that a Sheriff and the number two guy at the Sheriff's Department are not supposed to be engaged in any activity that has the hint of impropriety. As sworn law enforcement officers they must meet the highest standards of integrity and moral conduct.

[Michael Stogner]

“I want to apologize to my family, the Sheriff’s Office and its fine men and women, and to the people of San Mateo County for my lack of judgment and the undue attention and embarrassment this incident has caused,” according to the statement."

UNDUE ATTENTION????? Top 2 Law Enforcement Officers caught in a whorehouse....That will cause attention every time.

Munks said "Bolanos did not enter the residence."

The other reports said Bolanos was inside a room.

This should be easy to verify.

Lets see if our Sheriff is making false statements to the public in his prepared apology.

[Michael Stogner]

http://www.smdailyjournal.com/article_preview.php?type=opinions&id=74108

[Michael Stogner]

Wilburt.
Time to get some new Supervisors, Heres one to look at.
Supervisor Jerry Hill Regarding Greg Munks in a whorehouse

"He's an excellent Sheriff with a long history and an excellent reputation. I don't see this affecting his ability to act as Sheriff in any way."

This is the same mentality that the Board of Supervisor expressed when our County Manager John Maltbie was arrested in our own Prostitution Sting in 1993.

Prostitution has a theme in San Mateo County and our elected leaders are completely OK with it.




:eek:

Did you see the Channel 5 News last night?
http://cbs5.com/topstories/local_story_114010951.html

San Mateo County Sheriff Munks and his undersheriff Carlos Bolanos were being driven around Vegas in a limo and somehow found themselves swept up for questioning in a prostitution bust after allegedly visiting the alleged massage parlor. Bolanos said Munks was sore (LOL).........

First we have the San Mateo County Courts and other County agencies referring minors to an alleged pedophile psychiatrist for several years. Now we have the Sheriff and Undersheriff being questioned in a Las Vegas prostitution sting.

Wake up people, San Mateo County government needs to be cleaned up by the voters. Time to get some new Supervisors, a new DA, a new Sheriff, and new judges......

[Michael Stogner]

http://www.smdailyjournal.com/article_preview.php?type=opinions&id=74110

[wilburt]

:eek:

Jerry can explain himself when he attempts to run for a higher office. How about this for a question:

"Mr. Hill, do you support law enforcement personnel who visit whorehouses?"

I guess the answer is yes since he supports Munks?

So if Munks visits whorehouses does that make him a whorehouse visitor?
Inquiring minds want to know.

[wilburt]

:eek:

Munk's excuse is lame. Apparently, the 'ho' house Munks and his undersheriff were visiting may be located in a high crime area in Las Vegas. This was a private residence secluded from business districts. No street signage, no licenses. Nobody except cabbies, limo drivers, law enforcement, and a few disgruntled neighbors would have knowledge of their existance. For Munks to say he went there for a legitimate massage is ridiculous.

[Roscoe_Beedle]

Although I have no problem with a little "Pause that Refreshes" I think these two police officials have made a grave error. These clandescent massage parlors are notorious fronts for prostitution. Ask any college student.

When I'm in Vegas and need a massage the Hotels have facilities right on site. Very open and very legit. They actually give you a massage! To have to search for one in a questionable setting is bogus - a streach of imagination.

IF this story these two are selling is believable then these two are too stupid to be in their positions. Think their wives believe it? Think again.

And Jerry Hill is a phony to the core. He preaches public transit, buses for County employees, and getting out of your cars. Yet he drives a brand new large imported luxury car that gets less than 20 MPG. What's good for you is not good for him.

I can't believe I am agreeing with Michael.

[Michael Stogner]

A Thank You to the Las Vegas Police Department.

Can you imagine how many times Greg and Carlos showed their Badges and told the Police Officers that they are Law Enforcement Brothers etc. and if you are ever in San Mateo County and need a FAVOR etc.


Although I have no problem with a little "Pause that Refreshes" I think these two police officials have made a grave error. These clandescent massage parlors are notorious fronts for prostitution. Ask any college student.

When I'm in Vegas and need a massage the Hotels have facilities right on site. Very open and very legit. They actually give you a massage! To have to search for one in a questionable setting is bogus - a streach of imagination.

IF this story these two are selling is believable then these two are too stupid to be in their positions. Think their wives believe it? Think again.

And Jerry Hill is a phony to the core. He preaches public transit, buses for County employees, and getting out of your cars. Yet he drives a brand new large imported luxury car that gets less than 20 MPG. What's good for you is not good for him.

I can't believe I am agreeing with Michael.

[Missy]

Greg Munks and Carlos Bolanos have lost all credibility with not only the citizens of San Mateo County but the fine men and women who work under them. How can either of these two expect the deputies and correctional officers under their command to adhere to general orders regarding appropriate conduct when those commanding them have total disregard for the same. How can the Chiefs of the other law enforcement agencies in this county allow either of these two to have input into county-wide decisions.

Is this the first indescretion for these two. Those who want to do a little digging will find that the under sheriff has had a past history of improprieties while employed at his previous agencies that were covered up or swept under the rug.

A friend of mine whose brother works for the Sheriff's Office told me that just last month Munks and Bolanos dismantled the Sheriff's Office specialized Sex Crimes Unit. Coincidence.......Probably not......

[wilburt]

Greg Munks and Carlos Bolanos have lost all credibility with not only the citizens of San Mateo County but the fine men and women who work under them. How can either of these two expect the deputies and correctional officers under their command to adhere to general orders regarding appropriate conduct when those commanding them have total disregard for the same. How can the Chiefs of the other law enforcement agencies in this county allow either of these two to have input into county-wide decisions.

Is this the first indescretion for these two. Those who want to do a little digging will find that the under sheriff has had a past history of improprieties while employed at his previous agencies that were covered up or swept under the rug.

A friend of mine whose brother works for the Sheriff's Office told me that just last month Munks and Bolanos dismantled the Sheriff's Office specialized Sex Crimes Unit. Coincidence.......Probably not......

Like I said before, I think the California Department of Justice needs to send some agents to the San Mateo County Sheriff's Department and go over that place with a fine tooth comb. Especially after this incident.

[Michael Stogner]

http://www.insidebayarea.com/sanmateocountytimes/ci_5745781

[Michael Stogner]

http://www.mercurynews.com/search/ci_5745431?nclick_check=1

[Michael Stogner]

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/04/25/BAG4QPEU3E1.DTL&hw=Greg+Munks&sn=001&sc=1000

[Michael Stogner]

Both men are "outstanding law enforcement officers," and the Las Vegas incident would have no effect on their ability to work with local prosecutors, Chief Deputy District Attorney Steve Wagstaffe said.

Isn't that GREAT. Our San Mateo County Employees in the DA's Office are in full support of this activity.

Welcome to San Mateo County

[Michael Stogner]

http://www.klas-tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=6414745&nav=menu102_2_1

[Michael Stogner]

http://talkabout.hmbreview.com/topic.php?d=&t=460&c=11

[wilburt]

Both men are "outstanding law enforcement officers," and the Las Vegas incident would have no effect on their ability to work with local prosecutors, Chief Deputy District Attorney Steve Wagstaffe said.

Isn't that GREAT. Our San Mateo County Employees in the DA's Office are in full support of this activity.

Welcome to San Mateo County

:)

Again, Wagstaffe doth protest too much.

Is Wagstaffe the mouthpiece for bad cop behavior? Does he always seem to have an alibi for or is outspoken in his support for troubled cops? Is Wagstaffe Munk's spokesman or defense attorney? Is Wagstaffe doing all of this work for Munks on his own time or during work hours when San Mateo's taxpayers are paying him to prosecute criminal cases?

The vast majority of cops are good, law abiding people. I think that the conduct Munks and the Undersheriff have been involved in shows very bad judgment that undermines their fellow law enforcement officers.

Does it seem like the bureaucrats in Redwood City appear are having difficulty keeping a lid on all the scandals in San Mateo County Government?

If Munks won't resign, I think he should be recalled.

[Missy]

I noticed that a couple of the posts seem like thay may have written by either current or former deputies. How would you like to be these people. If you even voice your opinion about what Munks and Bolanos did, you will lose your job. Wonderful.

[Michael Stogner]

County Manager John Maltbie who was arrested in 1993 San Mateo County Sheriff Prostitution Sting Operation. John pretty much called all 6 of our Officer's liars, including the Sheriff....Adult Bookstore El Camino etc.

http://www.smdailyjournal.com/article_preview.php?id=74145

Now he is calling for an audit to see if any public funds were used for this Las Vegas trip.

Maltbie’s request was likely unsolicited by the Board of Supervisors, said Supervisor Jerry Hill who personally did not offer any direction to Maltbie on the matter.

Supervisor Jerry Hill wants the Sheriff to know he doesn't want this audit.
He couldn't care less if public funds were used. He thinks the Sheriff and undersheriff's actions were cool.....

Official Stateement: Regarding Expense

“Each participant paid their own way for the trip,” Sheriff’s Office Lt. Lisa Williams said.

Some county vehicles were taken to Las Vegas for the relay itself, Williams

Lt. Lisa Williams I have news for you.

Some County Vechicles were taken to Las Vegas = Public Funds were used those are our cars. our money

[Michael Stogner]

Reporters' Notebook
Happy belated birthday to county Supervisor and state Assembly candidate Jerry Hill who celebrated his 60th with 18 loved ones in Las Vegas last weekend. How exactly did Hill mark the milestone? We don’t know — what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas. Unless, of course you’re the sheriff...

[Michael Stogner]

http://www.smdailyjournal.com/article_preview.php?type=opinions&id=74162

[Buggs]

They may be the county's top law enforcement officers, but I completely buy their excuse that they didn't know they were in a brothel. They were naive. They had no idea those women in lingerie, who were probably touching them affectionately as they came in the door, were really hookers. They were just driving around on a Saturday night looking for a massage, somebody to rubdown those tired muscles. We're being too tough on these guys. They just a little dumb. I'm sure their wives bought this excuse, so the rest of us should too ....


((RE: Recall -- where do I sign?))

[Michael Stogner]

http://www.smdailyjournal.com/article_preview.php?id=74199

What does John Maltbie care. We already know the answer. cars=money

Now the County Counsel is involved for what purpose. to make sure documents go smoothly...sure


Now the Deputy Sheriff Association has stated that no public funds were used.

We know thats a lie. cars=money

What about the San Mateo County cars/vehciles driven to Las Vegas.

[Michael Stogner]

http://www.smdailyjournal.com/article_preview.php?id=74199

What does John Maltbie care. We already know the answer. cars=money

Now the County Counsel is involved for what purpose. to make sure documents go smoothly...sure


Now the Deputy Sheriff Association has stated that no public funds were used.

We know thats a lie. cars=money

What about the San Mateo County cars/vehciles driven to Las Vegas.

Greg Munks and Carlos Bolanos have been the two TOP COPS in San Mateo County for less then 4 months. Why is John Maltbie looking back on a time period that involved Sheriff Don Horsley and not Munks/Bolanos.

No wonder the San Mateo County Counsel is so interested.

[Michael Stogner]

http://www.ibabuzz.com/readitandrant/2007/04/25/dumb-and-dumber/

[Michael Stogner]

http://www.ibabuzz.com/readitandrant/2007/04/25/dumb-and-dumber/

Kept the arrest secret and witheld booking photo, until
they completed an investigation of sexaul abuse at Hillcrest against girls, by a San Mateo County Employee.

Now they both are at a house investigated for Human Smuggling....underaged girls stolen from their country.

[Michael Stogner]

http://www.kvbc.com/Global/story.asp?s=6411825

No mention of our Top Cops being detained.......Hmmmm

[Michael Stogner]

http://www.redwoodcitydailynews.com/article/2007-4-28-04-28-07-smc-sheriff

This does not mean that all of the fine Deputies of San Mateo County support Munks & Bolanos.

This only means the Association = The UNION BRASS Supports this behavior.

So we San Mateo County have:
County Manager John Maltbie. Supports
Supervisor Jerry Hill Supports
Steve Wagstaffe Supports
Sheriff Union Supports

[Michael Stogner]

Greg Munks and Carlos Bolanos have lost all credibility with not only the citizens of San Mateo County but the fine men and women who work under them. How can either of these two expect the deputies and correctional officers under their command to adhere to general orders regarding appropriate conduct when those commanding them have total disregard for the same. How can the Chiefs of the other law enforcement agencies in this county allow either of these two to have input into county-wide decisions.

Is this the first indescretion for these two. Those who want to do a little digging will find that the under sheriff has had a past history of improprieties while employed at his previous agencies that were covered up or swept under the rug.

A friend of mine whose brother works for the Sheriff's Office told me that just last month Munks and Bolanos dismantled the Sheriff's Office specialized Sex Crimes Unit. Coincidence.......Probably not......

"Those who want to do a little digging will find that the under sheriff has had a past history of improprieties while employed at his previous agencies that were covered up or swept under the rug."


Missy,

I have personal knowledge of Criminal Conduct not improprieties, in a couple cases. Any suggestions where I might look, names, dates, events etc.

You can e-mail michaelgstogner@yahoo.com if you don't want to post it.

[Michael Stogner]

This gives us a little better picture, of where our Two Top Law Enforcement Officials where hanging out together.

http://www.lvrj.com/news/7183331.html

[Michael Stogner]

http://article.wn.com/view/WNATE64032D8C3A758656D73B38E31FA33F9/

[Michael Stogner]

http://talkabout.hmbreview.com/topic.php?t=460&c=11&d=

[Michael Stogner]

http://www.smdailyjournal.com/article_preview.php?id=74302

For those who don't know, Peg Collier received a false billing invoice on her fax machine from San Carlos Mayor Mike King. Per his instructions she faxed the false billing invoice to the City of Belmont. She plead no contest. This is who is giving advice. Mike King was found guilty by jury, has not served 1 day in jail to date.


"The average voter is not that concerned with forgiving him.

I don’t think they care ... I don’t think they have time [to care],” Collier said.


Time will tell

[Michael Stogner]

http://www.smdailyjournal.com/article_preview.php?id=74302

For those who don't know, Peg Collier received a false billing invoice on her fax machine from San Carlos Mayor Mike King. Per his instructions she faxed the false billing invoice to the City of Belmont. She plead no contest. This is who is giving advice. Mike King was found guilty by jury, has not served 1 day in jail to date.


"The average voter is not that concerned with forgiving him.

I don’t think they care ... I don’t think they have time [to care],” Collier said.


Time will tell

"I don't think people care anymore what he's doing morally. He doesn't
owe me an apology and I don't think he owns any other residents an
apology."

[Tommy]

That is laughable (and actually funny). Asking Peg Collier for input on immorality!

[wilburt]

Munks thinks he can get out of this by not saying anything. Peg Collier, the political consultant who was guilty of a misdeameanor for submitting a false invoice to the South County Fire Authority (maybe she can handle Munk's recall defense), thinks Munks should not say anything because voters will forget and there is a long time between now and the time he is up for re-election. Collier thinks voter apathy will save Munks. If Munks does not address the questions a recall will be launched against him very soon.

[wilburt]

Munks has about 30 days to meet with voters and answer all questions or a recall will be launcehd. He might be surprised when he sees that there are a lot of voters in San Mateo County who don't want public officials in office who do not explain their questionable conduct.

The clock is ticking for Munks..............he better talk to the voters and explain himself to their satisfaction or a recall will be started...............

[Roscoe_Beedle]

I don't know. I think by exposing this thing the punishment was done. Can you imagine the reception his wife gave him? If he did't get the frying skillet over the head he probably is getting the cold touch and silent treatment. Bet it's like walking on broken glass around his home right now. He may be sleeping with the family dog at the moment.

And guess he won't be going alone to anymore of these phony junkets with the guys. He's a marked man.

This is not to say there may be larger community implications. But if your goal is for some type of punishment I beleive he's getting it big time.

[wilburt]

I don't know. I think by exposing this thing the punishment was done. Can you imagine the reception his wife gave him? If he did't get the frying skillet over the head he probably is getting the cold touch and silent treatment. Bet it's like walking on broken glass around his home right now. He may be sleeping with the family dog at the moment.

And guess he won't be going alone to anymore of these phony junkets with the guys. He's a marked man.

This is not to say there may be larger community implications. But if your goal is for some type of punishment I beleive he's getting it big time.

RB, it's not about punishment. It is about making public officials accountable to the people they serve. Munk's refusal to answer questions from his constituents shows the type of arrogance that we cannot accept from a public official whose integrity is in question. People need to know what type of person this guy is and he needs to answer all of the questions people have to earn back the public confidence he has lost.

[Michael Stogner]

RB, it's not about punishment. It is about making public officials accountable to the people they serve. Munk's refusal to answer questions from his constituents shows the type of arrogance that we cannot accept from a public official whose integrity is in question. People need to know what type of person this guy is and he needs to answer all of the questions people have to earn back the public confidence he has lost.

IF Greg Munks and Carlos Bolanos would lie about this, What else might they lie about? I agree with Wilburt on this one. The Daily Journal Poll is showing that 91% of the people want Greg Munks to resign. They do not want any questions answered.I fall into that group, I want them both out of the San Mateo County Law Enforcement business NOW.

The last time (recently) we San Mateo County had two Sheriff Deputies refuse to talk involved the death of a citizen. I remember Steve Wagstaffe was quoted as saying. They closed the investigation because the two deputies refused to talk with the District Attorney Investigators.

That is why the recall is the only action that will remove Greg Munks. By the way I voted for Greg Munks, now I am going to vote for recall.

Carlos Bolanos is the responsibility of the BOS to fire.

[Michael Stogner]

http://www.bakervegas.com/results.shtml

This is the race our Two Top Law Enforcement guys say they ran and got sore in.

The results are not posted yet. Hmmmmmm!

[wilburt]

I see there was a story on KRON 4 5 O'Clock news about how the recall against Munks is starting to heat up.

[Michael Stogner]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18289884/

[Michael Stogner]

http://www.bakervegas.com/results.shtml

Greg Munks....Leg 2...5.6 mile....Time 2hr 4minutes 38 seconds..

Carlos Bolanos never said his legs were sore, and with good reason....he did not run....at least not in the race.

[Tommy]

The San Mateo County Sheriff's Office placed 204th out of 227 teams. They crossed the finish line almost seven hours after the winning team.
For his part, Munks ran the second six-mile leg of the race in 59 minutes and 52 seconds, good for 211th out of 227 runners in the stage.


Well, they are NOT athletes so why were they in Vegas??

Hmmm--I wonder..

[wilburt]

[QUOTE=Tommy]The San Mateo County Sheriff's Office placed 204th out of 227 teams. They crossed the finish line almost seven hours after the winning team.
For his part, Munks ran the second six-mile leg of the race in 59 minutes and 52 seconds, good for 211th out of 227 runners in the stage.


Well, they are NOT athletes so why were they in Vegas??

Hmmm--I wonder..

:rolleyes:

Ten minutes per mile. Wow, that's hardly the land speed record. Munks must really be out of out of shape. I wonder how he passes the police physical to qualify as a cop? Or, does he have to take a physical test each year?

[Michael Stogner]

Sheriff Greg Munks

What is the address of the property you and Undersheriff Carlos Bolanos were detained at in the Las Vegas Prostitution and Human Smuggling Sting known as Operation Dollhouse?

What address did the limo pick you up from?

Who ordered the limo for you?

Did the Limo driver wait for you or did he/she leave after taking you to the site.

How many minutes where you in the house/apartment?

Did Carlos Bolanos ever enter the house/apartment?

If Carlos Bolanos waited for you outside while you were inside, where specifically was he, was he in the limo, or if limo left you there was he just standing outside on the sidewalk?

[wilburt]

Sheriff Greg Munks

What is the address of the property you and Undersheriff Carlos Bolanos were detained at in the Las Vegas Prostitution and Human Smuggling Sting known as Operation Dollhouse?

What address did the limo pick you up from?

Who ordered the limo for you?

Did the Limo driver wait for you or did he/she leave after taking you to the site.

How many minutes where you in the house/apartment?

Did Carlos Bolanos ever enter the house/apartment?

If Carlos Bolanos waited for you outside while you were inside, where specifically was he, was he in the limo, or if limo left you there was he just standing outside on the sidewalk?

Here are a few more questions for Munks:

Did you pay any money to anybody while you were at the house/apartment in Las Vegas where the sting took place? If so, who did you pay this money to and how can they be contacted?

What is the name, address, and telephone number of the limo company and the limo driver?

Have you ever been to this house/apartment in Las Vegas before?

How many times per year do you go to Las Vegas and when was the last time you were in Las Vegas?

What are the names and contact numbers for the people who own the house/apartment in Las Vegas?

Were the owners of the house/apartment in Las Vegas the ones who were arrested or were the people in control of the property renters? If they were renters, what are their names and how can they be contacted? If not, what are their names and how can they be contacted?

Did you have any prior contact with any of the people who were arrested at the house/apartment? If so, what was the nature of the contact?

Have you had any contact with any of the people who were arrested at the house/apartment since the sting took place? If so, what was the nature of the contact?

Have you ever visited or been a customer at any massage parlors or houses of prostitution (legal or illegal) in Las Vegas before or since the incident in question? What are the addresses/contact points for these establishments?

Inquiring minds want to know..........

[Michael Stogner]

http://talkabout.hmbreview.com/topic.php?c=11&d=&o=&t=460#comment_form

Posted in the last hour.

[mrs.frankb]

Most of the letter writers are outraged that Monks and his assistant went to Las Vegas - and visited a house of ill repute. The outrage is aimed at reputation, use of cars, county image, stupidity and lots of other things that wouldn't have even made the news if the behavior wasn't that of an elected Sheriff.

DID ANY OF THE GUYS EVEN NOTICE SOMETHING REALLY AWFUL HERE? DID ANYONE NOTICE OR CARE TO COMMENT ABOUT THE OPERATION BEING RUN ON THE BACKS (no pun intended) OF SEX SLAVES, MANY UNDERAGE. UNDERAGE MEANS CHILDREN, GUYS.

DID LAS VEGAS PD OR THE FEDS WHO WERE ACTING "UNDERCOVER" DO ANYTHING TO RESCUE THESE GIRLS? NO - THEY WATCHED THE PROPERTIES BECAUSE IT WAS AN UNDERCOVER OPERATION, APPARENTLY HAVING MORE TO DO WITH MONEY THAN THE WELFARE OF WOMEN AND CHILDREN.

DID OUR SHERIFF WALK INTO THAT PLACE,LOOK AROUND AND CALL LOCAL OFFICIALS WHEN HE SAW THE YOUNGSTERS? NO - APPARENTLY THE JERK WAS TOO SORE TO REACH FOR A PHONE!.

ALL OF THESE OFFICERS - FEDS, LVPD AND OUR SHERIFF SHOULD BE FIRED AND JAILED FOR ABUSE.

I'M OUTRAGED BUT FOR VERY DIFFERENT REASONS THAN THE REST OF YOU.

[Michael Stogner]

Most of the letter writers are outraged that Monks and his assistant went to Las Vegas - and visited a house of ill repute. The outrage is aimed at reputation, use of cars, county image, stupidity and lots of other things that wouldn't have even made the news if the behavior wasn't that of an elected Sheriff.

DID ANY OF THE GUYS EVEN NOTICE SOMETHING REALLY AWFUL HERE? DID ANYONE NOTICE OR CARE TO COMMENT ABOUT THE OPERATION BEING RUN ON THE BACKS (no pun intended) OF SEX SLAVES, MANY UNDERAGE. UNDERAGE MEANS CHILDREN, GUYS.

DID LAS VEGAS PD OR THE FEDS WHO WERE ACTING "UNDERCOVER" DO ANYTHING TO RESCUE THESE GIRLS? NO - THEY WATCHED THE PROPERTIES BECAUSE IT WAS AN UNDERCOVER OPERATION, APPARENTLY HAVING MORE TO DO WITH MONEY THAN THE WELFARE OF WOMEN AND CHILDREN.

DID OUR SHERIFF WALK INTO THAT PLACE,LOOK AROUND AND CALL LOCAL OFFICIALS WHEN HE SAW THE YOUNGSTERS? NO - APPARENTLY THE JERK WAS TOO SORE TO REACH FOR A PHONE!.

ALL OF THESE OFFICERS - FEDS, LVPD AND OUR SHERIFF SHOULD BE FIRED AND JAILED FOR ABUSE.

I'M OUTRAGED BUT FOR VERY DIFFERENT REASONS THAN THE REST OF YOU.

This happens all to often, the children were known to be there by the authorities, and instead of getting them out of there right away, they were used as bait.........

[mrs.frankb]

In regard to the fact that underaged girls were used as bait in this "sting operation," I'm Going To Suggest That We Write Our Federal Representatives - I.e. Hon. Tom Lantos, 400 El Camino Real Suite 410, San Mateo, Ca 94402, Hon. Barbara Boxer 1700 Montgomery St., Suite 1700, San Francisco, Ca 94111 And Hon. Eshoo, 698 Emerson St., Palo Alto Ca 94301. We Can Ask That They Work Against Federal Agencies Encouraging Or Becoming A Part Of This Type Of Sleezy "undercover" Operation. I Intend To Do So And I Also Intend To Write The Los Vegas Convention Bureau, The Los Vegas Chamber Of Commerce And Maybe Even Some Of The Larger Hotels Asking Themto Use Whatever Influence They Have With Their Local Law Enforcement Authorities To Put Victim's First - Whether They Speak English Or Not. As For Our Local "Law Enforcement" representatives to Vegas - My Reaction Has Gone From amused to furious. Recall Is Too Much Too Good For Munks.

[As If]

I am in agreement with you. Lets turn our anger into productive actions. I for one will write to our reps. I want Munk recall and Bolanos terminated! He doesn't want to answer questions that is fine with me I don't care to hear his answers anymore, I already know what he did, What was it he said " he thought it was a legitimate business? I understand that this was in a "bad" part of Vegas, how legitimate can it be? As for J. Hill he is notorious for his wishy washyness.. He is running for the assembly now, People lets vote and make sure that he doesn't represent us. As for the rest of the Supervisor's with all the trouble they have on hand you would think that they would try to do the correct thing and terminate Bolanos. Geezz I too am disgusted with our so call "Representatives" damnnn....


In regard to the fact that underaged girls were used as bait in this "sting operation," I'm Going To Suggest That We Write Our Federal Representatives - I.e. Hon. Tom Lantos, 400 El Camino Real Suite 410, San Mateo, Ca 94402, Hon. Barbara Boxer 1700 Montgomery St., Suite 1700, San Francisco, Ca 94111 And Hon. Eshoo, 698 Emerson St., Palo Alto Ca 94301. We Can Ask That They Work Against Federal Agencies Encouraging Or Becoming A Part Of This Type Of Sleezy "undercover" Operation. I Intend To Do So And I Also Intend To Write The Los Vegas Convention Bureau, The Los Vegas Chamber Of Commerce And Maybe Even Some Of The Larger Hotels Asking Themto Use Whatever Influence They Have With Their Local Law Enforcement Authorities To Put Victim's First - Whether They Speak English Or Not. As For Our Local "Law Enforcement" representatives to Vegas - My Reaction Has Gone From amused to furious. Recall Is Too Much Too Good For Munks.

[Michael Stogner]

Here are a few more questions for Munks:

Did you pay any money to anybody while you were at the house/apartment in Las Vegas where the sting took place? If so, who did you pay this money to and how can they be contacted?

What is the name, address, and telephone number of the limo company and the limo driver?

Have you ever been to this house/apartment in Las Vegas before?

How many times per year do you go to Las Vegas and when was the last time you were in Las Vegas?

What are the names and contact numbers for the people who own the house/apartment in Las Vegas?

Were the owners of the house/apartment in Las Vegas the ones who were arrested or were the people in control of the property renters? If they were renters, what are their names and how can they be contacted? If not, what are their names and how can they be contacted?

Did you have any prior contact with any of the people who were arrested at the house/apartment? If so, what was the nature of the contact?

Have you had any contact with any of the people who were arrested at the house/apartment since the sting took place? If so, what was the nature of the contact?

Have you ever visited or been a customer at any massage parlors or houses of prostitution (legal or illegal) in Las Vegas before or since the incident in question? What are the addresses/contact points for these establishments?

Inquiring minds want to know..........

What room were you in when detained?

Were you standing when first contacted?

Were you fully clothed when first contacted?

Were you fully naked when first contacted?

How did you and Carlos Bolanos get back to your hotel?

Who did you first contact after being detained?

How did you contact this person?

Have you communicated with James P. Fox about this?

Have you communicated with Steve Wagstaffe about this?

Have you communicated with Jerry Hill about this?

Have you communicated with Mark Church about this?

Have you communicated with Rose Gibbson about this?

Have you communicated with Adrieanne Tissier about this?

Have you communicated with Rich Gordon about this?

Have you communicated with any member of the Service League of San Mateo County about this?

Have you communicated with Thomas Casey III about this?

Have you communicated with Peg Collier about this?

Have you communicated with any Public Relations Consultant about this?

Have you communicated with any Union representatives about this?

[Michael Stogner]

http://www.smdailyjournal.com/article_preview.php?type=opinions&id=74630

[Tommy]

Yes, Peg Collier--the icon of all that is pure and ethical.

[Michael Stogner]

11 San Mateo County Vehicles were taken. $14,000 cost.
Some employees were on payroll...

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/05/07/BAG8RPMLF811.DTL

[Michael Stogner]

http://www.smdailyjournal.com/article_preview.php?id=74664

Team Building......Who's TEAM

[Tommy]

And for morale.

Somehow I don't think morale has improved since their trip.....

[Michael Stogner]

Wow.....What did the fly in????? TEAM BUILDING....

http://www.redwoodcitydailynews.com/article/2007-5-8-05-08-07-p7shf

[wilburt]

At this point, Munks needs to resign because his staying on as Sheriff is an embarrassment to the San Mateo County Sheriff's Department. Munks is the poster boy for why there is a recall process.

[Michael Stogner]

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/05/08/BAGO4PMP6H1.DTL&hw=Henry+Lee&sn=001&sc=1000

ONE YEAR...THATS ALL he got.

Helping 2 Brothels avoid Police RAIDS.

A SWAT TEAM MEMBER......employee of the Department of Public Saftey of Sunnyvale.....

[Michael Stogner]

http://www.smdailyjournal.com/article_preview.php?type=opinions&id=74739

Conviction rate 98%-99%.......That is a whole different story, but connected, look to the Private Defender Program for the answer.

[Michael Stogner]

http://www.kron4.com/Global/story.asp?S=6489459

[Michael Stogner]

http://www.smdailyjournal.com/article_preview.php?type=opinions&id=74738

We need to look at the Board of Supervisors...They are supposed to be looking out for the Tax Payers and residents of San Mateo County...

There is NO OVERSIGHT in San Mateo County....PERIOD

[Michael Stogner]

What room were you in when detained?

Were you standing when first contacted?

Were you fully clothed when first contacted?

Were you fully naked when first contacted?

How did you and Carlos Bolanos get back to your hotel?

Who did you first contact after being detained?

How did you contact this person?

Have you communicated with James P. Fox about this?

Have you communicated with Steve Wagstaffe about this?

Have you communicated with Jerry Hill about this?

Have you communicated with Mark Church about this?

Have you communicated with Rose Gibbson about this?

Have you communicated with Adrieanne Tissier about this?

Have you communicated with Rich Gordon about this?

Have you communicated with any member of the Service League of San Mateo County about this?

Have you communicated with Thomas Casey III about this?

Have you communicated with Peg Collier about this?

Have you communicated with any Public Relations Consultant about this?

Have you communicated with any Union representatives about this?

Unanswered questions I would like to ask...
list to be amended as necessary:

Was the Sheriff using a county credit card for this event?(party)
How many years has this been going on? and at what cost?
Did county funds pay for $1700 entrance fee?
Did county funds pay for the Limousine?
Did county funds pay for clothing?
Did county funds pay for hotels?
Did county funds pay for massages?
Did county funds pay for Bar tabs?
Did county funds pay for Equipment, race support materials such as food, water, beverages, donuts?
Was Sheriffs office equipment such as handcuffs, police radios, flagging, batons and other Sheriffs department equipment used for this?
Did the county Sheriff’s Office spokes person Lt. Lisa Williams lie or was she lied to?
Did the any participants get on duty pay during event?
Has there been any quick reimbursements back to county since the story broke?
Have the relevant time sheets and expense documents been lost, misplaced, redone, resubmitted, submitted late, altered, mutilated or changed in anyway?
Why has it taken so long for the Sheriffs office, Probation Department, and District attorney pay stubs and expense sheets to be delivered to the county controller?

After arriving to the single family residence with no sign of any type visable to the public.

Did you still believe you were at a legal business?

Why did you leave Carlos Bolanos, if you did in fact leave him?

Once you walked through the front door of the single family residence, Did you still believe you were at a legal business?

How many massage tables did you see?

How many minutes after walking through the front door was it before you realized it was not a legal business.

After comming to that conclusion, did you contact Law Enforcement, before you were detained.

Did you in fact even come to that conclusion before you were detained? Or
was it the handcuffs and the FBI that brought that fact to your attention?

Did Carlos Bolanos ever enter the residence, where you were detained.

What time did you arrive at the residence?

What did Carlos Bolanos say to you as you arrived at the house?

[Michael Stogner]

In regard to the fact that underaged girls were used as bait in this "sting operation," I'm Going To Suggest That We Write Our Federal Representatives - I.e. Hon. Tom Lantos, 400 El Camino Real Suite 410, San Mateo, Ca 94402, Hon. Barbara Boxer 1700 Montgomery St., Suite 1700, San Francisco, Ca 94111 And Hon. Eshoo, 698 Emerson St., Palo Alto Ca 94301. We Can Ask That They Work Against Federal Agencies Encouraging Or Becoming A Part Of This Type Of Sleezy "undercover" Operation. I Intend To Do So And I Also Intend To Write The Los Vegas Convention Bureau, The Los Vegas Chamber Of Commerce And Maybe Even Some Of The Larger Hotels Asking Themto Use Whatever Influence They Have With Their Local Law Enforcement Authorities To Put Victim's First - Whether They Speak English Or Not. As For Our Local "Law Enforcement" representatives to Vegas - My Reaction Has Gone From amused to furious. Recall Is Too Much Too Good For Munks.

Mrs.F
You must have hit a nerve with the FBI......An Attorney by the name of Dave Staretz has now determined, that all the previous statements by the Metro, and the FBI regarding slaves, women held against their will etc are to be forgotten.. He states the women are happy and making good money etc.

From April 21, 2007-May 9, 2007 we heard about Victims
From May 10, 2007 we now have Happy Visitors according to Dave Staretz FBI

A new problem for the 25 or so women.... As Victims they would have been able to stay in the United States.

As Happy Visitors Prostitutes they will be deported.

Victims
May 4, 2007 Trafficking Victims to Stay
http://www.lvrj.com/news/7331261.html

Visitors
May 10, 2007 Mr. Dave Staretz Chief Counsel for FBI
http://www.lvrj.com/news/7436826.html

[mrs.frankb]

Thank God for this forum. If I had to answer the FBI's attorney verbally I'd be in trouble because his comments left me speechless. I am forwarding information on his reply to Congresswoman Eshoo, Pelosi and Senator Boxer and Feinstein's office to see what these women think of our FBI (and IRS) at work. This is an outrage.

I guess our sheriff was so blinded by lust that the filthy conditions described didn't cool him off.

[Michael Stogner]

This might shed some light on the Powers to be in San Mateo County.

http://www.redwoodcitydailynews.com/article/2007-5-11-05-11-07-smc-sheriffs-ethics

[mrs.frankb]

PLEASE WRITE OR CALL YOUR REPRESENTATIVES - ADAM AT LANTOS' OFFICE WAS HELPFUL - HIS EMAIL IS: adam.stone@mail.house.gov

[Michael Stogner]

This is the organization which sponsored the Baker to Vegas Relay.

It is a private organization.

[Michael Stogner]

http://www.paloaltodailynews.com/article/2007-5-8-05-08-07-op-ed-sheriff

[Michael Stogner]

Greg Munks was Under-Sheriff during this time period.

Lets look at Hillcrest. Lets do it now before anyone else gets hurt.

http://www.redwoodcitydailynews.com/article/2007-5-12-05-12-07-smc-strip-searches

[Michael Stogner]

http://www.topix.net/forum/source/san-mateo-daily-news/TUCP9HPB8G1RGS2LC#lastPost

[Michael Stogner]

Greg Munks was Under-Sheriff during this time period.

Lets look at Hillcrest. Lets do it now before anyone else gets hurt.

http://www.redwoodcitydailynews.com/article/2007-5-12-05-12-07-smc-strip-searches

The settlement stems from a class-action lawsuit filed by Shannon Gallagher, 36, after she was arrested July 3, 2002, in Pacifica for a traffic warrant. Gallagher, who was living in San Francisco at the time, claims she was wrongfully strip-searched when booked into the Maguire Jail and when transferred to the women's jail.

"The county believes she was strip-searched only at the women's jail, Deputy County Counsel Carol Woodward said. "

When Carol Woodward says The county...
She means herself and Thomas Casey III.......and why would these two believe that.

Shannon Gallager knows she was strip searched at Maguire Jail...
Big Difference....

I believe she was strip searched at Maguire Jail.

[wilburt]

Could it be that this is just the tip of the iceberg and Sheriff Munks has connections to organized crime? If Munks is hanging out in whorehouses and other places where drug dealers, prostitutes and other nefarious characters hang out; could he also be involved in these activities? Is Munks an ally of these criminals?

[Glasshouses]

I agree with the previous poster who wants to know why Stogner has so many NEGATIVE contacts with law enforcement? If you look at Stogner's previous rants and raves you can see that he has had an issue with MANY San Mateo County Officials from Judges to BOS. Stogner actually seems to back the play of a CONVICTED killer (Rapoza) that killed his whole family on the San Mateo North Coast. This KILLER was convicted by a Jury of 12. Of course they were all wrong or corrupt and only Stogner knows for sure! Stogner wants the Sheriff to answer his questions? Why would anyone answer anything that this self imposed GOD (only in his mind). I have question for Stogner.

1) Have you ever been in custody in our County
2) Do you have a criminal record
3) Are you current in your IRS fillings
4) Have you ever been subjected to a 72 hr hold (5150)
5) What is your educational background
6) What is your exact address
7) Do you have any current cases pending in the County

A lot of these question can be answered by (peoplefinder.com) which is a legitimate business, for a fee will dig up all the facts.

[Michael Stogner]

I agree with the previous poster who wants to know why Stogner has so many NEGATIVE contacts with law enforcement? If you look at Stogner's previous rants and raves you can see that he has had an issue with MANY San Mateo County Officials from Judges to BOS. Stogner actually seems to back the play of a CONVICTED killer (Rapoza) that killed his whole family on the San Mateo North Coast. This KILLER was convicted by a Jury of 12. Of course they were all wrong or corrupt and only Stogner knows for sure! Stogner wants the Sheriff to answer his questions? Why would anyone answer anything that this self imposed GOD (only in his mind). I have question for Stogner.

1) Have you ever been in custody in our County
2) Do you have a criminal record
3) Are you current in your IRS fillings
4) Have you ever been subjected to a 72 hr hold (5150)
5) What is your educational background
6) What is your exact address
7) Do you have any current cases pending in the County

A lot of these question can be answered by (peoplefinder.com) which is a legitimate business, for a fee will dig up all the facts.

Glass...
Call me 650-921-7001 I will answer all your questions,

I never backed Eddie Rapoza III as you well know..... I simply stated that two Sheriff Deputies committed felonies on October 9, 2002 8:30 PM when they fabricated the existence of the Sobe Soda Softdrink Bottle.....

Easy to verify.....Al Gianinni, James P. Fox or Steve Wagstaffe....
What is the evidence number for the bottle when it was submitted as evidence...

Balls in your court.....Glass

[Glasshouses]

I want no personal contact with you. I only want people to know who they are dealing with. Many respondants of your previous posts have responded to you with less then civil comments. Why don't you reply on this forum for all to see. I actually have a real job and posting on different local forums doesn't pay the bills!

[Roscoe_Beedle]

Micahel, have you ever considered you may be a touch too strident in this quest? Do you actually know Sherrif Munks?

I learned long ago, compassion beats stridency. It could be, the sum total of Sheriff's Munks acheivements or contributions outweigh the foibles of this event.

Some truly great men and women have done things at times in their lives that were questionable at best. Churchill was a heavy drinker. Yet he saved his nation.

I fall into the trap of quick judgement many times. And I try and catch myself before acting. Sure, Munks used poor judgement. But look at the rabid nature of your supporters here, a lynch mob.

Something much better than Sheriff's Munks job should come from this. Tighter guidelines for these expensive junkets, better oversight of our County Manager in approving these events, and a code of conduct for all County employees when conducting their personal business. That would be the great benefit to the citizens rather than firing one man for what may have been a personal mistake.

[Glasshouses]

Finally! A sensible man! "ROSCOE." He is right, there are a lot of positives that can come from this. Whatever was done is now history, lets move on and see what programs the Sheriff has that will benefit the County.

[Michael Stogner]

I want no personal contact with you. I only want people to know who they are dealing with. Many respondants of your previous posts have responded to you with less then civil comments. Why don't you reply on this forum for all to see. I actually have a real job and posting on different local forums doesn't pay the bills!

Glass......you support alleged crime being committed by two Sheriff Deputies.

Your real job is a more valuable and important than my job of 47 hrs per week. nice to know.

The people who want to know about me can find me without your help.....

I can be reached at 650-921-7001

[Michael Stogner]

Micahel, have you ever considered you may be a touch too strident in this quest? Do you actually know Sherrif Munks?

I learned long ago, compassion beats stridency. It could be, the sum total of Sheriff's Munks acheivements or contributions outweigh the foibles of this event.

Some truly great men and women have done things at times in their lives that were questionable at best. Churchill was a heavy drinker. Yet he saved his nation.

I fall into the trap of quick judgement many times. And I try and catch myself before acting. Sure, Munks used poor judgement. But look at the rabid nature of your supporters here, a lynch mob.

Something much better than Sheriff's Munks job should come from this. Tighter guidelines for these expensive junkets, better oversight of our County Manager in approving these events, and a code of conduct for all County employees when conducting their personal business. That would be the great benefit to the citizens rather than firing one man for what may have been a personal mistake.

Roscoe,
You made some very good points here, and I know you have given this some thought......

To answer your question I personallly do not know Sheriff Greg Munks.

This is not about the Sheriff getting fired, This is about the people of San Mateo County trusting the Law Enforcement of the Sheriff's Department.

I mean the ordinary people not the County Employees.

The Board of Supervisors of San Mateo County supports this behavior.
Thomas Casey III supports this behavior
James P. Fox District Attorney supports this behavior.
Steve Wagstaffe supports this behavior.
Mike Nevin supports this behavior
John Maltbie County Manager supports this behavior...really supports this.

I Michael G. Stogner do not support this behavior and my one little vote will demonstrate that.

[Michael Stogner]

Joe Faulkner wrote:

Listen...This isn't going anywhere. The Munks "Sunset Magazine Money" is at work now with damage control.Other then you and a few others this is a non issue.


I say ........Time will tell.

[wilburt]

Micahel, have you ever considered you may be a touch too strident in this quest? Do you actually know Sherrif Munks?

I learned long ago, compassion beats stridency. It could be, the sum total of Sheriff's Munks acheivements or contributions outweigh the foibles of this event.

Some truly great men and women have done things at times in their lives that were questionable at best. Churchill was a heavy drinker. Yet he saved his nation.

I fall into the trap of quick judgement many times. And I try and catch myself before acting. Sure, Munks used poor judgement. But look at the rabid nature of your supporters here, a lynch mob.

Something much better than Sheriff's Munks job should come from this. Tighter guidelines for these expensive junkets, better oversight of our County Manager in approving these events, and a code of conduct for all County employees when conducting their personal business. That would be the great benefit to the citizens rather than firing one man for what may have been a personal mistake.

Dear Roscoe,

Since you are a former member of the "intelligence community" you understand that once a person in a sensitive leadership position has compromised themself, they are hobbled in their ability to carry out their duties. It is virtually impossible, for a person who is the elected Sheriff of a county, to claim the moral high ground that must be claimed to enforce the law, when that person is caught up in a police sting at an illegal whorehouse.

If Munks won't resign, a successful recall allows allows the community to bring in a fresh leader, who is not compromised, so the new Sheriff can move forward and implement the good things you envision for the San Mateo County Sheriff's Office.

Munks was Undersheriff before he was Sheriff. Things seem to being going downhill at the Sheriff's Office and Munks, being part of the old regime, is not the person to clean things up. It seems to me that the longer Munks stays Sheriff, the worse things will get at the Sheriff's Office. Munks is now a burden to the people who work at the Sheriff's Office and the taxpayers of San Mateo County. Time for him to resign or be recalled.

[Michael Stogner]

http://cbs5.com/topstories/local_story_137010229.html

[Michael Stogner]

http://www.ibabuzz.com/insider/2007/05/15/stogners-list-of-questions-for-munks-surfaces/#comments

[Michael Stogner]

http://www.insidebayarea.com/search//ci_5936301

[Michael Stogner]

http://peninsulapolitics.blogspot.com/2007/05/county-supes-hill-display-double.html

[Michael Stogner]

http://www.smdailyjournal.com/article_preview.php?type=opinions&id=75542

[Michael Stogner]

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/northcounty/20070523-9999-1mi23chief.html

[Michael Stogner]

Katz family pays $9,475 for Sheriff's Vegas Trip
In todays SMDJ

Despite the recent hoopla over his Las Vegas trip, San Mateo County Sheriff Greg Munks still has some fans on the Peninsula. On Friday, the Katz family will present a check for $9,475 to the Sheriff’s Office at the county government building. The money will cover the entire amount listed for the trip including travel, accommodation and other expenses for Munks and Undersheriff Carlos Bolanos.

Munks and Bolanos were under fire after the trip for an annual run after being questioned at a home looking to get massages as it was busted for being a brothel.

That is a cute story......

April 21, 2007 @ 9:30 PM Sheriff Greg Munks and Carlos Bolanos were both hancuffed and detained inside an illegal brothel residential house, which had underaged girls who were here illegally and held against their will to perform sex with men like our Sheriffs.

They were not looking to get massages, they were looking to have sex with underaged girls....Thats why they went there. and that is most likely what happened...The arrest records are sealed at this time.

For some reason Katz family is paying $9,475.00 for expenses that the Sheriff lied about...."No County Funds Were Spent."

[mrs.frankb]

When you think about it, becomes pretty obvious that our Sheriff and his companion sought out the estblishment they visited - otherwise they would just have picked up a phone book and took a cab a couple of miles. But they didn't do that - they sought illegal services - probably because they were looking for underage prostitutes - something no legal brothel would offer.

Victims get victimized, records get sealed, children get used and a public display of money is supposed to make all of this go away. I think the money should go to a fund for the women and children who were the real victims of this tawdry little story.

[Michael Stogner]

When you think about it, becomes pretty obvious that our Sheriff and his companion sought out the estblishment they visited - otherwise they would just have picked up a phone book and took a cab a couple of miles. But they didn't do that - they sought illegal services - probably because they were looking for underage prostitutes - something no legal brothel would offer.

Victims get victimized, records get sealed, children get used and a public display of money is supposed to make all of this go away. I think the money should go to a fund for the women and children who were the real victims of this tawdry little story.

I'm with you Mrs. Fankb.
It makes you wonder what the Katz family was told about the
April 21, 2007 event,,, to offer to pay for this.

Victims Fund for the women and children.

[Roscoe_Beedle]

Dear Roscoe,

Since you are a former member of the "intelligence community" you understand that once a person in a sensitive leadership position has compromised themself, they are hobbled in their ability to carry out their duties. It is virtually impossible, for a person who is the elected Sheriff of a county, to claim the moral high ground that must be claimed to enforce the law, when that person is caught up in a police sting at an illegal whorehouse.

If Munks won't resign, a successful recall allows allows the community to bring in a fresh leader, who is not compromised, so the new Sheriff can move forward and implement the good things you envision for the San Mateo County Sheriff's Office.

Munks was Undersheriff before he was Sheriff. Things seem to being going downhill at the Sheriff's Office and Munks, being part of the old regime, is not the person to clean things up. It seems to me that the longer Munks stays Sheriff, the worse things will get at the Sheriff's Office. Munks is now a burden to the people who work at the Sheriff's Office and the taxpayers of San Mateo County. Time for him to resign or be recalled.


Michael, the reason all the men were released in that sting operation in Vegas was because the Vegas cops wanted to release Munks and Bolanos. They hardly could do that AND charge the other men. So, no charges filed against any of the patrons to that house.

Yes, this shows the compromising position of this Sherrif. Any one charged with solicitation here locally may have an argument to hear.

I think this shows that "intelligence" was sorely lacking on the part of the Sherrif.

As far as the intelligence community, the only real compromising position generally has to do with money. That's the grease.

[Michael Stogner]

When you think about it, becomes pretty obvious that our Sheriff and his companion sought out the estblishment they visited - otherwise they would just have picked up a phone book and took a cab a couple of miles. But they didn't do that - they sought illegal services - probably because they were looking for underage prostitutes - something no legal brothel would offer.

Victims get victimized, records get sealed, children get used and a public display of money is supposed to make all of this go away. I think the money should go to a fund for the women and children who were the real victims of this tawdry little story.

Contact your Supervisor and ask to have the money sent to the Salvation Army in Las Vegas...They are talikg care of the 25 girls fro the Sting Operation....Operation Dollhouse 4/21/07

http://peninsulapolitics.blogspot.com/2007/04/county-sheriff-and-undersheriff.html

[Michael Stogner]

http://www.ibabuzz.com/insider/category/greg-munks/

[Michael Stogner]

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=27149

[mrs.frankb]

This is not only a hard-hitting article, it is one of many that describe the physical descriptions of the extablishment. They all say the same thing: "dirty mattresses on floor, 'cublicles' defined by hanging dirty sheets, reeking of smoke, feces, urine..." To even think that someone who has been given power over women and children (in his position as elected Sheriff) in this county is horrifying. A normal person would have removed themselves from that environment immediately - a real memer of law enforcement would have called local authorities. They do not deserve to be called "officers of the law."

[Michael Stogner]

This is not only a hard-hitting article, it is one of many that describe the physical descriptions of the extablishment. They all say the same thing: "dirty mattresses on floor, 'cublicles' defined by hanging dirty sheets, reeking of smoke, feces, urine..." To even think that someone who has been given power over women and children (in his position as elected Sheriff) in this county is horrifying. A normal person would have removed themselves from that environment immediately - a real memer of law enforcement would have called local authorities. They do not deserve to be called "officers of the law."

Every minute they stay in power they are causing harm to San Mateo County.

We all know what kind of men they are...there actions prove it.

[Michael Stogner]

Mr Katz made a $1,000 payment instead of the $9475.

http://www.insidebayarea.com/sanmateocountytimes/localnews/ci_6045968

[Michael Stogner]

http://needsofthemany.blogspot.com/2007/05/remember-illegal-alien-prostitutes-that.html

[Michael Stogner]

CALIFORNIA
Ex-Deputy Charged With Sex In Jail

Male guard in women's unit could get 6 1/2 years

Julie N. Lynem, Chronicle Staff Writer

Friday, March 26, 1999

©1999 San Francisco Chronicle

The San Mateo County district attorney's office charged a former sheriff's deputy yesterday with having sex with an inmate and bringing alcohol into the women's jail, after a monthlong investigation.

Willard Kelley, 56, had a sexual encounter with the 32-year-old woman on the morning of February 4 at the Women's Correctional Center in Redwood City, authorities said. A 28-year veteran, Kelley resigned in lieu of termination last month after allegations of misconduct surfaced.

The district attorney's office charged Kelley, who was on duty at the time of the encounter, with two felony counts and one misdemeanor.

The felony charges allege Kelley brought alcohol into the jail and allowed an inmate to perform oral sex on him. The misdemeanor alleges that he engaged in consensual sex with an inmate.

If convicted, he could be sentenced to prison for as long as 6 1/2 years.

``We're certain that this is an isolated incident,'' said Undersheriff Greg Munks. ``This is an extremely unusual occurrence. We haven't had something like this in 10 years.''

Kelley's attorney, Joshua Bentley, said yesterday that he will reserve his comments for the courtroom. He did say that he and Kelley were working out the terms of Kelley's surrender to authorities.

The woman, who was in custody on theft and credit card fraud charges, had also attempted an escape on January 7. She has been moved to jail in Alameda County the request of her attorney, who did not return calls yesterday.

Sheriff's detectives found out about the February 4 incident after the woman scaled a 12-foot fence and escaped from the center, Munks said.

The same day, the woman was apprehended in San Mateo. During a meeting with investigators, the inmate said Kelley had sexually assaulted her in her cell on February 4. She also said Kelley had taken her outside to one of the center's enclosed recreation areas for a cigarette shortly before 4 a.m. on February 14.

``There are conflicting accounts,'' Munks said. ``He claims she came on to him. She claims that he initiated it and came to her door.''

No inmates or other deputies said they knew anything about the February 4 incident, which took place during Kelley's 6 p.m. to 6 a.m. shift.

Munks said the sexual encounter happened behind the cell door and would not have been easily seen by other inmates. At the time, two other deputies were on duty but were working in different parts of the facility.

However, during interviews with Kelley and the woman, investigators concluded that a sexual incident had indeed taken place. From the beginning, Munks said, sheriff's detectives were suspicious about the circumstances of the woman's escape.

``There were some red flags,'' he said.

There also was a cup filled with bourbon that investigators found inside the woman's cell, which led authorities to believe that Kelley had been there that morning, Munks said. Although Kelley took and passed a polygraph test, he later admitted having sex with the woman and throwing a bottle of alcohol away.

Sheriff's officials said yesterday that they were disappointed that a deputy had broken the law and violated department procedures. But Munks said most officers obey the rules. At the Women's Correctional Center, 20 deputies -- half of them male -- guard female inmates, Munks said.

One female deputy is always is on duty in case an inmate needs to be strip-searched, he said.

Karen Shain, administrative director of Legal Services for Prisoners With Children, said such an arrangement is not nearly sufficient. Although sexual relations between guards and inmates is not something that happens every day, having large numbers of male guards around females in custody can spell trouble.

[Michael Stogner]

http://www.smdailyjournal.com/article_preview.php?id=76462

[Michael Stogner]

http://www.smdailyjournal.com/article_preview.php?type=opinions&id=76720

[Michael Stogner]

http://www.smdailyjournal.com/article_preview.php?type=opinions&id=76714

[silverfarb]

Check out my column in Friday's Daily Journal: http://www.smdailyjournal.com/article_preview.php?id=76720&eddate=06/22/2007

[Michael Stogner]

Bill here is a better article....more factual.

http://www.redwoodcitydailynews.com/article/2007-6-23-0623-smc-katz

[mrs.frankb]

Yes, I know its old news but go back a few posts and check out Stogner's posting of the article outlining behavior of a former 56-year-old deputy with a 32-year-old woman inmate.

Apparently the deputy brought alcohol inside the facility and a "sexual encounter with the woman followed - right there in our county's "correctional" facility! The article goes on to tell us that the inmate "was allowed" to have sex with the deputy - as if such an experience was a real treat. However, visions of this happy female felon are dispelled when we learn that the experience must not have been a treat after all because the poor woman was driven to scale a 12-foot fence and escape!

This is the point in the story where we must wonder about the leadership and fine reputation supplied by then Undersheriff Greg Munks - you know - the great reputation of solid leadership that our supervisor and assembly candidate Jerry Hill referred to.

As for Munks comments about the incident suffered by a woman in custody in our jail, apparently no one gave Munk a statement printed in large letters to read because he stammered through various lame excuses - including the old "he said - she said" which totally ignored the facts. To cover those, he referred vaguely to the excuses that didn't apply, red flags, suspicious circumstances etc. and concluded by saying: "...we're certain this is an isolated incident...an extremely unusual occurrence...haven't had something like this in 10-years.

This should be a red flag to anyone who gives a damn about the welfare of women and children's welfare and rights in our system. Munks seemed to think the piggish deputy's behavior was o.k. This is the same man who managed to end up in an illegal establishment featuring young sex slaves.

[Michael Stogner]

Yes, I know its old news but go back a few posts and check out Stogner's posting of the article outlining behavior of a former 56-year-old deputy with a 32-year-old woman inmate.

Apparently the deputy brought alcohol inside the facility and a "sexual encounter with the woman followed - right there in our county's "correctional" facility! The article goes on to tell us that the inmate "was allowed" to have sex with the deputy - as if such an experience was a real treat. However, visions of this happy female felon are dispelled when we learn that the experience must not have been a treat after all because the poor woman was driven to scale a 12-foot fence and escape!

This is the point in the story where we must wonder about the leadership and fine reputation supplied by then Undersheriff Greg Munks - you know - the great reputation of solid leadership that our supervisor and assembly candidate Jerry Hill referred to.

As for Munks comments about the incident suffered by a woman in custody in our jail, apparently no one gave Munk a statement printed in large letters to read because he stammered through various lame excuses - including the old "he said - she said" which totally ignored the facts. To cover those, he referred vaguely to the excuses that didn't apply, red flags, suspicious circumstances etc. and concluded by saying: "...we're certain this is an isolated incident...an extremely unusual occurrence...haven't had something like this in 10-years.

This should be a red flag to anyone who gives a damn about the welfare of women and children's welfare and rights in our system. Munks seemed to think the piggish deputy's behavior was o.k. This is the same man who managed to end up in an illegal establishment featuring young sex slaves.


From that article......

But Munks said most officers obey the rules. At the Women's Correctional Center,

Isn't that nice.....MOST.....I wonder what would it take to get to ALL officers obey the rules?

[mrs.frankb]

Obviously rape, victimization of women and children and other actions that make San Mateo County's "correctional' system look like that of a third
world country won't - because they haven't yet.

[Michael Stogner]

:eek:

Did you see the Channel 5 News last night?
http://cbs5.com/topstories/local_story_114010951.html

San Mateo County Sheriff Munks and his undersheriff Carlos Bolanos were being driven around Vegas in a limo and somehow found themselves swept up for questioning in a prostitution bust after allegedly visiting the alleged massage parlor. Bolanos said Munks was sore (LOL).........

First we have the San Mateo County Courts and other County agencies referring minors to an alleged pedophile psychiatrist for several years. Now we have the Sheriff and Undersheriff being questioned in a Las Vegas prostitution sting.

Wake up people, San Mateo County government needs to be cleaned up by the voters. Time to get some new Supervisors, a new DA, a new Sheriff, and new judges......

Somehow the link dissapeared......here it is again.

http://cbs5.com/video/?id=23406@kpix.dayport.com

San Mateo County Supervisor Jerry Hill at 4:43 to 5:10 on video.