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spidey
11-16-2006, 10:43 AM
I have to state that I do not smoke.

With that out of the way, let us clear up some horse manure that these idiots seem to be throwing in our faces:

San Mateo has an estimated 700,000 people living in the area. For those 700,000, there are roughly 355,000 vehicles (public and private) in operation. That's just for San Mateo, this does not count travel THROUGH San Mateo by those of whom use highway 101, or other roads, to get to work (source: http://www.bayareacensus.ca.gov/counties/SanMateoCounty.htm).

All of those vehicles produce - carbon monoxide! What are its effects on health? Well, I'm glad I asked, because here are some places to find the facts:

http://biology.about.com/library/blco.htm

http://www.silentshadow.org/

http://www.carbonmonoxidekills.com/coinformation.htm

Okay, we now know that carbon monoxide is bad, at any level. What are the levels of that silent killer gas in San Mateo, or the Bay Area?

http://www.scorecard.org/env-releases/cap/county.tcl?fips_county_code=06081

Hmmm, San Mateo is in the 90th percentile of dirty cities in the US!

We all know that second hand smoke is bad; however, compared to the effects of carbon monoxide & benzene (we didn't even look at benzene!), second hand smoke becomes a non-issue. I saw a person with a sign that said, "Stop poisoning me with second hand smoke" in Berkeley one day, and this idiot was sitting right next to a diesel truck that was spewing out its toxins, in a visible black cloud, all over him. It just blew my mind that this person did not even take notice of that.

It is about control. They will try to control the habits with those of whom they disagree and yet, if you try to control their habits, they get violent.

Forget the question, "Whatever happened to a free country?" but think, rather, "Whatever happened to intelligence?"
2smart4u
11-20-2006, 04:00 PM
"Whatever happened to intelligence?"
A good question, after reading the posts from the smokers.
2smart4u
11-20-2006, 04:24 PM
I laugh at the ignorance of people who can't tell necessary evils from unnecessary ones.

Like people who compare trucks to cigarettes and cars to guns.
We need trucks and cars to tarsport ourselves and goods.

No one truly needs cigarettes or guns.

And comparing cigarettes to abortions is ludicrous, at best.

And it's probably the same chain-smoking people who are whining about this new law that drive SUVs, and are glad that the government doesn't have stricter emissions laws on those gas-guzzling, air-polluting vehicles of death.
Colonist
11-20-2006, 06:45 PM
I laugh at the ignorance of people who can't tell necessary evils from unnecessary ones.

Fireplaces aren't necessary - Ban Them

The people who have fireplaces now in Belmont may be able to have them 'grandfathered in'

Of course with a heavy tax attached- That can be easily drawn-up.
2smart4u
11-21-2006, 11:08 AM
I laugh at the ignorance of people who can't tell necessary evils from unnecessary ones.

Fireplaces aren't necessary - Ban Them

The people who have fireplaces now in Belmont may be able to have them 'grandfathered in'

Of course with a heavy tax attached- That can be easily drawn-up.

Why ban fireplaces? Try making sense.
Colonist
11-21-2006, 03:06 PM
http://burningissues.org/

BurningIssues.org provides public education about the medical hazards of exposure to wood smoke and other fine particulate pollution. Smoke from residential burning of wood and coal, wood burning restaurants and outdoor burning of wood, leaves, crops, tires and debris is permeating our neighborhoods, resulting in high ground-level concentrations of toxic air pollution.

Clean Air Revival, Inc. is a non-profit 501 c3 volunteer organization dedicated to research and education on particulate aerosol pollution and its deadly effects on living things. We advocate life-long good health by breathing clean air and planned avoidance of smoke creation.
Colonist
11-21-2006, 03:12 PM
Why ban fireplaces? Try making sense.

2Smart
Try reading the website above in the last post.

If you will not even entertain for the good people of Belmont and their righteous leadership to ban all forms of smoke...then this isn't about banning smoke or the hazards of smoke...is it?

It's about banning smokers.
2smart4u
11-21-2006, 03:18 PM
2Smart
Try reading the website above in the last post.

If you will not even entertain for the good people of Belmont and their righteous leadership to ban all forms of smoke...then this isn't about banning smoke or the hazards of smoke...is it?

It's about banning smokers.

From that website: "Breathing wood smoke particles during high pollution days is equilalent to smoking 4 to 16 cigarettes."

Who burns wood on high pollution days, which are generally very hot days? How ignorant. And they provide no link to this supposed EPA study.

The site is a mess.

Even if everything on that site was true, which is highly doubtful, how does that excuse cigarette smokers from polluting my air?

No chimney has ever blown smoke in my face.